This woman is watching my children right now...

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drowbot0181
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23 Jun 2009, 11:26 am

Yesterday my mother-in-law came over and told us that she had been laying outside, watching the clouds because she was waiting for her dead mother to create her initials in the clouds. Then, she says, as she was about to give up, she saw a cloud that was in the exact form of her mother, including detailed facial features.

I just had to relate this to somebody and my MIL is on my Facebook list so I can't comment on it there.

I think I may have had a minor stroke while trying to process this information.



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24 Jun 2009, 10:07 am

Sheesh. Your MIL thinks that her mom communicates to her via clouds? Dreams I can understand, but clouds? Sounds like there's a fog in her head.



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24 Jun 2009, 11:05 am

Heh, wasn't there oracles in ancient times that could predict the future by watching the movement and shape of the clouds? Granted, we have meteorologists now (which are more often than not correct on their prediction...) But meh.



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24 Jun 2009, 1:41 pm

I saw a cloud that looked exactly like Russia once. I wonder what Thor is trying to tell me.


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24 Jun 2009, 1:51 pm

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I saw a cloud that looked exactly like Russia once. I wonder what Thor is trying to tell me.


I see clouds that look like countries quite a lot. When I tell my family, "That cloud's shaped like Moldova/Ukraine/Thailand/etc," they normally say, "I don't even know what that country's shaped like," LOL.


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24 Jun 2009, 2:01 pm

People are weird. I don't see anything too bizarre with this. Hallucinations and sensations of this nature are really somewhat common in the average person.



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24 Jun 2009, 3:01 pm

I saw a cloud that look identical to Newfoundland, and a few that looked like animals like cats and horses... but no messages.

I agree, you MIL has some fog in her head.


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24 Jun 2009, 3:20 pm

drowbot0181 wrote:
Yesterday my mother-in-law came over and told us that she had been laying outside, watching the clouds because she was waiting for her dead mother to create her initials in the clouds. Then, she says, as she was about to give up, she saw a cloud that was in the exact form of her mother, including detailed facial features.

I just had to relate this to somebody and my MIL is on my Facebook list so I can't comment on it there.

I think I may have had a minor stroke while trying to process this information.


If she's Irish/ Irish descent don't worry they are all somewhat crazy...
If not then... wow... I have no idea what to write...



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24 Jun 2009, 4:36 pm

I should say that she is quite religious. She doesn't actually adhere to her religion (Christianity) in any way that I can discern, but she is very "preachy" about it, especially to me. I'm sure this is tied in with her magic clouds.

I can understand looking for shapes in the clouds and seeing them. I can even understand, to an extent, people applying very vague meanings to them, like saying it is a sign they will have a good day or something. But to actually claim that the cloud is your dead mother looking at you from Heaven...



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24 Jun 2009, 4:43 pm

drowbot0181 wrote:
I should say that she is quite religious. She doesn't actually adhere to her religion (Christianity) in any way that I can discern, but she is very "preachy" about it, especially to me. I'm sure this is tied in with her magic clouds.

I can understand looking for shapes in the clouds and seeing them. I can even understand, to an extent, people applying very vague meanings to them, like saying it is a sign they will have a good day or something. But to actually claim that the cloud is your dead mother looking at you from Heaven...


All I gotta say is... lol organised religion, sometimes you and your followers make it worth living in this world...



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24 Jun 2009, 4:59 pm

I think there are enough people out there like this who want to pinpoint exactly where reality is for the sheer sake of running as precisely in the opposite direction as possible. Especially with some people who are fighting enough depression, they may almost need to if they don't want to be fitting themselves with cement overshoes and sleeping with the fishes. As long as she's not going to sell your kids into some New Age cult to have the angels on UFOs take them to a better world your probably ok.



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24 Jun 2009, 5:04 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
People are weird. I don't see anything too bizarre with this. Hallucinations and sensations of this nature are really somewhat common in the average person.


It gives life meaning I suppose.



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24 Jun 2009, 5:05 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
I think there are enough people out there like this who want to pinpoint exactly where reality is for the sheer sake of running as precisely in the opposite direction as possible. Especially with some people who are fighting enough depression, they may almost need to if they don't want to be fitting themselves with cement overshoes and sleeping with the fishes. As long as she's not going to sell your kids into some New Age cult to have the angels on UFOs take them to a better world your probably ok.


I think it's a common trait in many humans that they feel a deep need to overlay reality with such things as a means to act as a buffer for the harshness of the world.One can see that rituals honoring the dead have evolved hand in hand with religion over the Millenia, suggesting that organised religions hold over some people is simply because they wish to shield themselves from the thought of their loved ones as a conscious entity ceasing to exist.



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24 Jun 2009, 5:15 pm

EtotheC wrote:
I think it's a common trait in many humans that they feel a deep need to overlay reality with such things as a means to act as a buffer for the harshness of the world.One can see that rituals honoring the dead have evolved hand in hand with religion over the Millenia, suggesting that organised religions hold over some people is simply because they wish to shield themselves from the thought of their loved ones as a conscious entity ceasing to exist.


Natural law yield itself to the strongest, cruelest, and sheistist. In a society it gives power to the quick-witted conniver. In the mean time though there are people who want t be good, want to do what's intuitively right, feel good about themselves, and life gives them almost no excuse to live without being alpha (which doing the right thing or being a good person never is on its own, if anything it usually detracts).

I don't think this can really be looked at for an absolute take on theism, atheism, or deism as that's an altogether different kind of conversation but it shows that people do have this inherent need for multiple reasons; either as a buffer, as an excuse to be someone they like, as an excuse not to kill themselves for not being the quickest, strongest, best looking, for not being a rock star or movie star, for not being president or governor, an excuse to develop themselves to the best of their mediocre-capped ability under that circumstance - the list could go on.



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24 Jun 2009, 5:21 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
EtotheC wrote:
I think it's a common trait in many humans that they feel a deep need to overlay reality with such things as a means to act as a buffer for the harshness of the world.One can see that rituals honoring the dead have evolved hand in hand with religion over the Millenia, suggesting that organised religions hold over some people is simply because they wish to shield themselves from the thought of their loved ones as a conscious entity ceasing to exist.


Natural law yield itself to the strongest, cruelest, and sheistist. In a society it gives power to the quick-witted conniver. In the mean time though there are people who want t be good, want to do what's intuitively right, feel good about themselves, and life gives them almost no excuse to live without being alpha (which doing the right thing or being a good person never is on its own, if anything it usually detracts).

I don't think this can really be looked at for an absolute take on theism, atheism, or deism as that's an altogether different kind of conversation but it shows that people do have this inherent need for multiple reasons; either as a buffer, as an excuse to be someone they like, as an excuse not to kill themselves for not being the quickest, strongest, best looking, for not being a rock star or movie star, for not being president or governor, an excuse to develop themselves to the best of their mediocre-capped ability under that circumstance - the list could go on.

I was not suggesting in and of itself, that this is a way to refute any theistic points, be they personal or organised spiritualism. Simply that societies overall reliance on the comfort of religion is a deep psychological trait of many humans for comfort. A need to "be the child" whilst a greater power watches over you.



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24 Jun 2009, 5:41 pm

I imagine if you were really concerned about the hokey cloud watching grandma, then you would not feel safe letting her care for your children...but you do...so no sweat.