What do you think regarding gay people?

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Actually, it IS relevant. Couples who could not have children (or chose not to) sometimes had their marriages annulled as producing children was a chief reason for getting married. Those who can't have children are able to marry for being heterosexual because only a heterosexual union can produce children. That a couple may be sterile or unwilling is not the issue. For homosexuals, it is a physical impossibility to produce a child with the equipment they have.

Regarding gay adoption, there is much in dispute about that. Comb some of the criminal cases on child abuse an be amazed by what goes on that the mass media refuses to talk about.




State. If it was just a church thing, no one would give a f**k and it would be for the religious people themselves to sort out. But as it stands, married couples are given financial and legal benefits and recognised by teh state. So it is a state institution - you don't need to get married in a church. The church would not be forced to marry anyone it doesn't want to - right now it can refuse to marry a divorced person or another sinful couple. Legalising gay marriage would not infringe on the rights of any religious group.[/quote]

Fine. That's how you see it.

However, under the law, the state had pretty much ZERO business in determining if one could marry or if a marriage was "legal." The common law was that if a couple presented themselves as husband and wife for X amount of time, it was a marriage. It is a recent devise of government to say you need the state's permission to marry, and it is not rooted in any basis of constitutional law.

Why doesn't anyone ever care about the bloody asexuals?

Could you explain this further? What should be done with regard to asexuals?

I was more commenting on the poll assuming that everyone is either straight or gay. Either way, I of course advocate equality regardless of sexual orientation.

What's your opinion?

i am not sure. i really do not care anyway.
whatever happens away from my sight is not my concern.

never the less....

i think some gay parents may be biased in their advise to their children when their children become old enough to desire physical relationships with people.

from my observations (which are scant), female homosexuals often dislike men more than male homosexuals dislike women.

i see many male homosexuals who are very affectionate (but not sexually) with females, and they like to talk to females and they are interested in many of the same things that females are.

i see many female homosexuals who are disgusted by men, and they think of men as hairy unclean ignorant brutes who are not sensitive or evolved. they seek female company exclusively and reject male participation in their social lives.

i think the advice that 2 lesbians may give their daughter who is asking whether she should date some boy she had met could be biased. as in "never trust men! they only want one thing."

i think male homosexuals would give advise to their sons that is less biased, as in "oh she's such a lovely vibrant girl".

i do not think i would be comfortable imagining a 12 year old boy watching his "fathers" kissing each other passionately on the lips.

i do not think i would be comfortable imagining a 12 year old girl watching her "mothers" kissing each other passionately on the lips.

i do think i would be comfortable imagining a 12 year old child watching their mother and father kissing each other passionately on the lips.

after a kid is about 10 years old, they know what happens when mummy (mommy) and daddy go to bed in a certain mood.

it is unnerving to imagine a 12 year old imagining what their gay parents get up to behind closed doors.

when i was 12, i knew that male homosexuals had anal sex. i could not believe they would find it pleasant. if i had 2 fathers, i would have issues as to which of my fathers is the "dealer" and who is the "copper" (as it were). i would probably force myself to ignore any curiosity about my parents intimate relationship.

whatever. this is my first post tonight and this is the first thread i saw.

i really have no idea.
my brain is an old superseded model and only "sputters" along in this "modern" age.

do not waste your vitriol on me because i did not put much thought into my answer.

I don't even see why homosexual people are considered a group, and i don't understand why they would wish to have their own culture. When are people going to realise that sexual orientation is just that... sexual orientation.

b9, no kid likes thinking about their parents having sex. And this may be news to you, but notall gays have anal sex and plenty of straight people do. Maybe you mum liked it up the arse.

You shouldn't prevent a group of people adopting just because of generalisations. Some lesbians don't like men, yes. Some single straight women are even MORE bitter towards men as well. And you've just demonstrated that you prbably wouldn't give very good advice to your child if they turned out to be gay/bi. Shall we stop you adopting too?

zer0netgain - would a straight man who lost his penis in an accident not be able to marry a woman becuase he doesn't have the equipment to reproduce? Face it, reproduction has NOTHING to do with marriage in practice. It's 2009.
And common law/religious marriage is irrelevant. We're talking about legal benefits here. The state recognises the relaitionships of straight couples who marry, and gives them legal/financial incentives to do so. Why not the same for couples who just happen to have the same genitals?

I can't believe you're brining child abuse into this. Do you think it's predominantly gay couples who abuse kids or something?

And what about bisexuals?

bloody asexuals are the worst. I like them well done, nice and crispy

What about pansexuals, transsexuals and aspiesexuals?

Why not? Gotta be a reason.

Also b9...
the reason you would not be comfortable with it, is because (I am assuming) that you did not grow up with gay parents, if you did, you'd be used to it and thus the you would not think much of it.

Also think about this..... when blacks and whites began to marry each other years ago, I am sure that caused controversy, but the children who grew up in that household thought nothing of it.

I also disagree about how the couples... particually the females would talk to their children about love, most gay people know that homosexuality is not chosen, so having gay parents doesn't make you gay either.

According to my anthropology classes, marriage is the only reliable way we've found of indicating that both individuals are exclusively taken and should not mate with anyone else, because otherwise ressources would be spent outside the couple and would be detrimental to either individual, or even their offspring. =/ And since procreation requires a lot of involvement and energy especially from the female, i doubt she'd want to see those ressources go to waste. So meh, i'd say as long as the basic idea is there, there shouldn't be a problem, right? >.>

I'm pro-GLBT rights in general, GLBT people should have the same rights and benefits as straight people (marriage, adoption, ect).

In that Anthropology class they DID tell you this sort of 'marriage' didn't start until after farming and herding became established, right? The million years before that hunter gatherers didn't need that sort of arrangement and didn't have it until property (and it's inheritance rights)became involved.

i never did see a cat with glasses say such a thing.



i care not whether they are allowed to adopt kids. it is not my concern.


i agree. i am not going to have children, so thankfully no child will suffer my tutelage



so i assume you are gay because you said "we". that explains the angst in your post.
no do not stop adopting. i do not see why a child should be left alone when some person wants to love them. gayness is irrelevant. i just have a problem subjectively thinking about kissing a mans stubbly face. errrkkk. sorry.

but i know that parents give no indication as to their sexual behavior to their kids, and i would presume gay people would be as restrained.