THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

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22 Sep 2009, 12:58 pm

Here's Sarah Palin, defending the 'bridge to nowhere'...;)
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22 Sep 2009, 8:07 pm

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It won't be Sarah Palin, I guarantee it.

If I had to guess right now, I'd say Mitt Romney out the field of likely candidates Huckabee, Romney, Gingrich Pawlenty, and yes Palin. Hard to imagine who else might emerge. Sleeper picks: Paul Ryan or Mike Pence.

Maybe Hillary Clinton will run again too. :wink:

Jindal has been mentioned as a possible Republican candidate. Palin, of course, has no chance. Anyone who thinks otherwise is frankly delusional.

The Republicans will never nominate Romney. Their base simply would not tolerate a Mormon candidate. They might, over the better judgment of the few sane members of their party, nominate someone like Huckabee, but then they're just setting themselves up for a repeat of 1964. Gingrich might be their best shot, but there's more than enough old dirt lying around to destroy a Gingrich campaign.

It seems likely that Obama will be a two-term President, especially if the economy improves and he takes no action on gay marriage. (Both of those seem likely at the moment) However, unless his healthcare reform is seen as a huge success, he will probably be succeeded by a Republican. After all, since WWII the longest streak any part has had in office has been three terms (Reagan and Bush 1981-1993) and Obama would need to leave with overwhelming approval for another Democrat to follow him in the White House.


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22 Sep 2009, 8:09 pm

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And vice-president Arnold Schwarzenegger!



I sooo believe that weill happen, its already been shown on the simpson s movie



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22 Sep 2009, 8:54 pm

Palin is not conservative or Christian enough. We need someone like Fred Phelps to whip this country into shape.



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22 Sep 2009, 9:11 pm

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Jindal has been mentioned as a possible Republican candidate.


Given his stage presence/tv presence, I hope so. Given his history as a Louisiana politician...I want him as far away from power as possible.

Met him before but it was too long ago for me to really feel him out in person. Seemed nice but then again, he IS a politician.
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Governor Bobby Jindal of Louisiana mocks the separation of church and state. Jindal is taking helicopters to church paid for by tax-payers dollars. The Louisiana governor spent $180,000 in taxpayer funds during his first eight months in office to travel by a State Police helicopter to many of the same churches he visited while on his campaign trail. Jindal has since spent another $45,000 traveling to even more churches.

Jindal certainly has the right to practice his own faith. But he does not have the right to preach all over the state on the taxpayer’s dime.

It’s also important for Jindal to understand the rules governing tax exemption for religious and other nonprofit institutions. Federal tax law plainly forbids a house of worship to engage in partisan politics. If churches are serving as a political base for one candidate, they’re overstepping legal bounds.

Jindal’s appearances at these churches are as much political as they are religious. And that’s a misuse both of religion and tax payer money.

The Rev. C. Welton Gaddy, pastor of Northminster Baptist Church in Monroe, La ., and president of Interfaith Alliance, a national interfaith group "dedicated to protecting the boundaries between religion and government for the good of both institutions", is standing up for what is right.

Gaddy has released an open letter to Jindal that says, in part:

" If you were traveling to these churches to worship with the various congregations, you should have paid your own expenses to get there as did the other worshipers. If you were traveling to these churches for the purpose of sharing your personal faith and encouraging faith in others, state funds absolutely should not have been used to pay your expenses.... If you were traveling to these churches for political purposes, you should not have been there in the first place, regardless of who funded the travel.

...Governor Jindal, it appears that you owe the people of Louisiana an apology and the treasurer of the state a reimbursement of at least $45,000..."

Jindal's flagrant violation of the separation of church and state mocks the constitution. He should be compelled to reimburse the good people of Louisiana and he should be expelled from office at the earliest opportunity. A man who subverts the constitution for his own personal gain, a man who shows no remorse for his blatant corruption, has no business in public office.


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22 Sep 2009, 9:43 pm

I'm guessing Mitt Romney. He already started planning his campaign. I think that after having Obama in office, a Mormon would seem tolerable.


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22 Sep 2009, 10:14 pm

hey isnt it Ron Paul who is getting his media presence banned and silenced due to his anti elitism views, thats what i heard, I wish he'd be president if that was true, they can keep being republicans and capitalists, but please spare me the elitism!



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22 Sep 2009, 10:31 pm

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hey isnt it Ron Paul who is getting his media presence banned and silenced due to his anti elitism views, thats what i heard, I wish he'd be president if that was true, they can keep being republicans and capitalists, but please spare me the elitism!


It was very interesting how the media manipulated everyone. I didn't realize just how effective media control was.


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22 Sep 2009, 10:33 pm

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hey isnt it Ron Paul who is getting his media presence banned and silenced due to his anti elitism views, thats what i heard, I wish he'd be president if that was true, they can keep being republicans and capitalists, but please spare me the elitism!

Ron Paul is a fringe candidate. He is ignored by the media in large part because his views are seen as so radical that very few people would be receptive to his message.


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22 Sep 2009, 10:41 pm

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He is ignored by the media


He got a lot of coverage for being ignored.

More that he was effectively dismissed ad infinitum.


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22 Sep 2009, 10:51 pm

skafather84 wrote:
Orwell wrote:
He is ignored by the media


He got a lot of coverage for being ignored.

More that he was effectively dismissed ad infinitum.

Availability heuristic/false consensus effect. Most people have not really heard of Ron Paul except in passing. He was not, generally speaking, a major news item the way Obama, Hillary, McCain, Romney, Giuliani, and even Huckabee and Edwards were.

And to the OP: If Palin ever becomes President, I'm moving to Canada. There are crypto jobs up there that I am not eligible for as long as I am a US citizen (there is concern over export laws) so I would have some viable plan aside from being a refugee from Caribou Barbie.


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24 Sep 2009, 7:48 am

I'll put my money on Joe Biden.



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24 Sep 2009, 8:47 am

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Gingrich might be their best shot, but there's more than enough old dirt lying around to destroy a Gingrich campaign.

Hehe, I kind of like that Newt dude. He understands the important issue of Jacuzzis!

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NG: This bill actually has the secretary of energy
Regulating jacuzzis
Now, the idea strikes me
As close to being nuts

AG: I agree--I'm an angry gorilla and that makes me angry

JI: The only jacuzzis this will regulate
Will have to produce 2,500 mega watts of energy

AG: You made me angry with lies
Hurt my angry gorilla pride; I'm angry

NG: On page 233, uh
Line 5: portable electric spas

All: Portable electric spas!

MG: No spa is above the law!

NG: Now, I don't know what a portable electric spa is
I was told it was a jacuzzi
But that's in this bill

AG: So it's true!
I'm no longer angry at you
My original anger's renewed

JI: We will give you a hot spa
That is energy efficient
I hope that doesn't offend you

AG: He might have a point
My anger's makin a switch
Cuz you're being a little b*$&
But maybe not
Maybe you're just defending freedom and justice for jacuzzis
ohhhhhh
What's this? a single tear that is wet that i shed

When an angry gorilla cries
Who's gonna be there to dry his eyes?
And when an angry gorilla's depressed
Who's gonna heal him with a soft caress?
Ooh ooh ah ah, the tears are rolling down my cheeks
Ooh ooh ah ah, liquid sorrow that my eyes excrete

And I'm a soulja, but a soulja's got feelings,
Don't know whom to lend my anger to,
And that's why I'm crestfallen and confused

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24 Sep 2009, 11:19 am

I still don't think Obama will get voted out in 2012. He's still above 50% approval (and only 40% disapproval) in the bottom of a 2 year long recession and a national debate over health care. Reagan was at 40% at comparable places in his presidency. Bush II won with a 45% approval rating.



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24 Sep 2009, 12:03 pm

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I still don't think Obama will get voted out in 2012. He's still above 50% approval (and only 40% disapproval) in the bottom of a 2 year long recession and a national debate over health care. Reagan was at 40% at comparable places in his presidency. Bush II won with a 45% approval rating.


Obama comes out of Chicago where falsified elections have a long history. After what Bush II did in Florida and Ohio it should be a cinch for Obama to work the same kind of deals to remain president.



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I still don't think Obama will get voted out in 2012. He's still above 50% approval (and only 40% disapproval) in the bottom of a 2 year long recession and a national debate over health care. Reagan was at 40% at comparable places in his presidency. Bush II won with a 45% approval rating.


Obama comes out of Chicago where falsified elections have a long history. After what Bush II did in Florida and Ohio it should be a cinch for Obama to work the same kind of deals to remain president.



Bush 1.7...get it right, he's a beta release. Still got Jeb and Marvin (at least) to watch out for.


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