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14 Oct 2009, 12:54 pm

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Inca's and Aztecs report about white, bearded men (referred to as 'gods') from which they received 'knowledge'. This is why these tribes thought the invading spaniards were the returning gods.


Or maybe they were just Albinos.


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14 Oct 2009, 1:24 pm

DrFremdliebe wrote:
Inca's and Aztecs report about white, bearded men (referred to as 'gods') from which they received 'knowledge'. This is why these tribes thought the invading spaniards were the returning gods.


I'm fairly certain that Cortes made up the claim that the Aztecs thought he was Quetzalcoatl. Any documents making this claim are Spanish....

EDIT: Also, I have never heard of the Inca having myths about the white man coming.



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16 Oct 2009, 5:15 pm

MussoliniBismarck wrote:
DrFremdliebe wrote:
Inca's and Aztecs report about white, bearded men (referred to as 'gods') from which they received 'knowledge'. This is why these tribes thought the invading spaniards were the returning gods.


I'm fairly certain that Cortes made up the claim that the Aztecs thought he was Quetzalcoatl. Any documents making this claim are Spanish....

EDIT: Also, I have never heard of the Inca having myths about the white man coming.



It wasn't in writing. Mayan glyphs and pottery paintings show bearded men. Most native Mayans nowadays don't grow facial hair. Most of the other men in glyphs didn't have beards. Only the gods and these images were made long before the Spaniards arrived. Could have been another native group that had at one time been Siberians or Solutrean culture Europeans that migrated at the end of the last glacial maximum and persisted until the early period in Mayan culture. These are fancy thoughts but we really don't know. All we know is that the bearded different men images are odd.

Cortez didn't report... it was usually Priests who did the writing, except for a few cases as in Cabeza de Vaca.



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16 Oct 2009, 7:53 pm

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Could have been another native group that had at one time been Siberians or Solutrean culture Europeans


Good job on the Solutrean idea. I had forgotten about them. I wish more was known of their presence in North America.


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17 Oct 2009, 1:02 pm

Sasquatch is the master race. They have been able to evade official recognition for thousands of years.


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18 Oct 2009, 10:21 am

Race a little hell topic

In our increasing iconoclastic world, why is anyone concerned about being "better" than anyone else? No one will bow down to you, anyway. Mastery of anything is fleeting, transient, an unhealthy obsession.

I agree with history_of_psychiatry.^^ 8)


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18 Oct 2009, 7:50 pm

I agree with ruveyn's take about us being master race for the time being, mostly because we haven't encountered anyone who's better at killing us than our own selves :roll: .



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19 Oct 2009, 12:12 am

MussoliniBismarck wrote:
DrFremdliebe wrote:
Inca's and Aztecs report about white, bearded men (referred to as 'gods') from which they received 'knowledge'. This is why these tribes thought the invading spaniards were the returning gods.


I'm fairly certain that Cortes made up the claim that the Aztecs thought he was Quetzalcoatl. Any documents making this claim are Spanish....

EDIT: Also, I have never heard of the Inca having myths about the white man coming.


my peruvian relatives also mention this one white god, but no details..

we need to re-think tho.

WHITE doesnt have to mean european. it can mean WHITE, as white-as-a-ghost, or white as in beaming light.
white as in divine.


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19 Oct 2009, 2:56 am

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Cortez didn't report... it was usually Priests who did the writing, except for a few cases as in Cabeza de Vaca.


Right.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzalcoa ... nochtitlan



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19 Oct 2009, 6:41 am

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I don't think there is any real discernible difference between countries and people. Just the level of education and the culture really. Tests and studies like these aren't exactly the most reliable indicator either.

There is no master race.


I agree....



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19 Oct 2009, 8:42 am

Jacoby wrote:
I don't think there is any real discernible difference between countries and people. Just the level of education and the culture really. Tests and studies like these aren't exactly the most reliable indicator either.

There is no master race.


Culture, language and values are everything. Biological race is nothing. We are all mutts, every last one of us. Some of us have better manners than others.

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19 Oct 2009, 11:49 am

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According to a recent study (Ulster University, 2006), the Germans and Dutch have the highest IQ in Europe: average 107.

This raises the question: Is there a 'master race' in North-western Europe ?


A master race with an IQ of 107 is decidedly scary.


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19 Oct 2009, 6:14 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
I don't think there is any real discernible difference between countries and people. Just the level of education and the culture really. Tests and studies like these aren't exactly the most reliable indicator either.

There is no master race.


Culture, language and values are everything. Biological race is nothing. We are all mutts, every last one of us. Some of us have better manners than others.

ruveyn


I am not a mutt. I am 100% caucasian.



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19 Oct 2009, 6:31 pm

SirTwittThornwaite wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
I don't think there is any real discernible difference between countries and people. Just the level of education and the culture really. Tests and studies like these aren't exactly the most reliable indicator either.

There is no master race.


Culture, language and values are everything. Biological race is nothing. We are all mutts, every last one of us. Some of us have better manners than others.

ruveyn


I am not a mutt. I am 100% caucasian.


for 100% caucasian to exist, humanity needs to have originied and evolved there.
you totally missed ruveyn's point.

we all, including you, are mutts. "every last one of us"


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19 Oct 2009, 8:46 pm

Besides, if people were 100% caucasian, it would be easy to kill them all thanks to their low-diversity gene pool which wouldn't allow most of them to survive.