'Don't mention islam'

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AAAAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHH!! !! !! sodding bloody racists!! ! I'm a Trotskyist for crying out loud - I want everyone, everywhere to be able to live a humane life free from exploitation, violence and oppression - why would I want anyone to have to live on this horrid little island with all the bloody racists rattling around doing no good for anyone?

Who are you to talk about prejudice?



Prove it.



Unemployment is not the result of immigration, it's a structural feature of capitalism - without a certain level of unemployment wages would sky rocket and not one capitalist would want to make anything as they wouldn't be able to turn a profit. Eat it.

The racist undertones aside(and yes, they're there!), Britain has got a giant problem with Islam because it has allowed Islam to infiltrate its government - What on Earth gave these appeasement-mongers the idea that Shari'a Courts would be a good idea? Britain created this problem, not the Muslims. This will happen whenever you give religion power: It will use it to intimidate, erode freedom, and lobby for theocracy, and the establish of the laws of the Sky Wizard, praise be to Allah, or Yahwe, or whoever's trendy these days.

Regardless of the existence of the so-called useful idiots of Labour and the Dhimmi Archbishop of Canterbury, there is considerable hatred of Islam present in Europe, and it is all justified. Some distinguish between Islam and Islamism, but they're one and the same. What one might call a peaceful, normal Muslim, is, within Islam, what is called a "munafiq"; a hypocrite who says he is Muslim, but whose deeds do not confirm such a claim. So a true Muslim is an Islamist - You will go to hell according to Islam if you live the way that the vast majority of the world's Muslims live these days, and the same goes for the people who call themselves "Christians", they are lying hypocrites, too, and their book foretells their future in hell, too. Now, there are idiot f**ktard fascists like the BNP who piggyback on issues like Islam and piggyback on the negative opinion of it to further their own fascist agendas and I recognize the rhetoric used here because I'm familiar with the s**t they spew... Muslims are gonna take over our countries, Europe is gonna turn into Eurabia, blah blah blah. No-one would take this seriously if they knew that it was coming from bottom-feeding scum-suckers like the BNP and its tiny, small, insignificant leader Nick Griffin.

Rant, but true.

Same here; trouble is getting a person whos only analysis of unemployment is to blame it upon the foreign workforce [and not the inherent contradiction between capitalism and nation states etc ] to understand such a concept is going to be harder than teaching a chimp one banana + one banana gives you two bananas



This shows you have no idea of mine or Titus's 'brand of leftist thinking' we are not leftist radicals who somehow want capitalism to be reformed, those idiots are indeed self destructive, even more so they are a vital part of capitalism without whom it could not exist. We are both Trotskyists, in other words we understand the complete and utter inability of capitalist reformation and instead are revolutionary socialists who want a complete change of social order. There is nothing self destructive about our political philosophy, in fact it is the only chance this planet has of meeting all the needs of the people, avoiding the next global conflagration and dealing with human induced climate change. Capitalism is the overwhelmingly self destructive ideology, as it has no answers to any of these issues, in fact war and hunger are part of its coping mechanisms.

I suppose the problem with being on the far right is that everyone looks like a leftist from there and gets lumped together as petty bourgeois liberals - and some individuals can only differentiate between groups if they're colour coded

Those chimps would not have the slightest idea what a petty bourgeois was. I am a Marxist and proud of it. BTW on a matter of symantics, is it correct to use petty instead of petite, petty means small minded, whereas the petite bourgeois are 'small'

As I've said before, if you're going to insult me at least be a little subtle; it's more fun that way.


I live in the real world, not some parallel universe. We have nation states, and those in the western world operate, to varying degrees, some form of capitalism. Clearly within that context and with regard to the current economic climate, employing foreigners is preferred by many employers because they are cheaper. So, those foreigners are taking jobs that British labour could fill. This is not rocket science, you know. Yes, that is a result of capitalism, but as we don't operate a completely free and open market system, anyway, there's no reason why we shouldn't implement a more efficient strategy to control foreign labour entering our country. It may shock you to know, but some countries already do have much better systems than ours.


As you should be aware, I specifically referred to the current relatively-high level of unemployment, not the fact that there is unemployment. It goes without saying that with our economic system there will be a number of people unable or unwilling to work at any given time; what I'm concerned with is how large that number is. In fact, that holds for almost all systems, though I'm sure that in your leftist utopia there'd always be room for one more down the salt mine. Ever thought about going to North Korea, T.L.C?


So, T.L.C brings the Mao suits, and you the daily queue in the rain for the 500 calories of dried pork and rice?

Should be great fun...

Edit: I hope you don't mind me abbreviating your names. I figured that as at least one of you has days where he can't seem to find the energy to reach the shift key on his keyboard, you'd understand.

So it is in fact that one starts out as a racist then seeks out justification for it - this is why your being racist is pointed out to you, you begin any analysis (in the loosest sense of the term) from the standpoint of a racist and view the world through this lens. This is how all ideology works including Marxism, which recognises itself as such. The difference being that racism is not a valid or viable political ideology because it does not have a valid or viable position on political economy, and should not be addressed as such.



R. E. C. E. S. S. I. O. N.

Also a structural feature of capitalism.



And you'll bring the bedsheets and white pointy hats?



either way is valid I suppose, depending on who it is you're referring to
(on a serious note I think the 'petty' form is ust an anglicised version of the more common petit-bourgeois)

I was not trying to insult you i was just describing you in the most succinct and accurate way possible



And right there is the major screw up, you cannot have both. The results of this contradiction have been demonstrated time and again, world wars, impoverishment etc. Arguably the ultimate demonstration of the contradiction of capitalism and nation states is being played out right now; with the feeble attempt of capitalism to deal with the threat of a global climatic catastrophe. I do not live in a parallel universe I am very much present in this one, however unlike you, I have bothered to do the hard work and try to understand the nature and history of capitalism. How much easier it would be to blame the foreigners, a philosophy simple enough that you can teach to a three year old.



Once again you show a complete and utter ignorance of our political philosophy, may I suggest that you read ''Revolution Betrayed" By Leon Trotsky I prefer books however it can be read online http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1936/revbet/index.htm

Maybe there's a homeopathic medecine for Dent's unworldliness?

islam doors and neglect to ensure there are spaces in my sentences.

Apparently you have not heard of the Uma, which is the Islamic nation. The program of the Islamic nation is to make the entire world part of the Uma.

ruveyn

WhiskeyInTheJar, I would suggest reading your private messages.


M.

Jews got out proselytizing two thousand years ago.

One of the basic axioms of Judaism is the the righteous folk of all the nations have a part in the World to Come

ruveyn

????.

Apparently no Uma for the Swiss there. In a referendum last Sunday they said non/nein/no to building minarets.

I hope the fact that every male Swiss citizen is armed to the teeth deters terrorist acts, if this anti-minaret law stands.

Look what happened in Denmark when some cartoonist "insulted" the Faithful.

ruveyn