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Which economic system does God prefer?
pure capitalism 20%  20%  [ 7 ]
pure communism 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
pure communalism 9%  9%  [ 3 ]
pure socialism 11%  11%  [ 4 ]
pure feudalism 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
military dictatorship 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
some combination of some of the above 17%  17%  [ 6 ]
anarchy 14%  14%  [ 5 ]
other? 17%  17%  [ 6 ]
Total votes : 35

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04 Mar 2010, 7:26 pm

If you read Acts 4-5:

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All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had....There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need.

Joseph, a Levite from Cyprus, whom the apostles called Barnabas (which means Son of Encouragement), sold a field he owned and brought the money and put it at the apostles' feet.

Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property. With his wife's full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles' feet. Then Peter said, "Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? Didn't it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn't the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied to men but to God." When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard what had happened. Then the young men came forward, wrapped up his body, and carried him out and buried him.

About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. 8Peter asked her, "Tell me, is this the price you and Ananias got for the land?"

"Yes," she said, "that is the price."

Peter said to her, "How could you agree to test the Spirit of the Lord? Look! The feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also."

At that moment she fell down at his feet and died. Then the young men came in and, finding her dead, carried her out and buried her beside her husband. Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events.


So, it seems that Communism would be the preferred state of affairs for Christians.



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04 Mar 2010, 7:40 pm

Gigi830 wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
that's norse
they've had those already
neo paganism is modern day paganism

Actually a modern pagan may worship any number of gods from any pantheon, from The Lord and/or Lady to Anubis to Thor. A Wiccan, however, is specific (originating with Gardener's teachings and ideas) and usually thinks of "god" as a duel entity or entities specifically called the Lord and Lady. Pagan is general, while Wiccan is specific (All Wiccans are pagan, but not all Pagans are Wiccan... )


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05 Mar 2010, 12:11 am

Kilroy wrote:
Gigi830 wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
that's norse
they've had those already
neo paganism is modern day paganism

Actually a modern pagan may worship any number of gods from any pantheon, from The Lord and/or Lady to Anubis to Thor. A Wiccan, however, is specific (originating with Gardener's teachings and ideas) and usually thinks of "god" as a duel entity or entities specifically called the Lord and Lady. Pagan is general, while Wiccan is specific (All Wiccans are pagan, but not all Pagans are Wiccan... )


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05 Mar 2010, 8:55 am

As I understand it, Mohammed, the founder of Islam, was originally a salesman/merchant, which would suggest a preference for capitalism. (Jesus was a carpenter--I don't know if he was a union member--but this would imply a Christian preference for socialism).

It is also my understanding that Islamic banks do not charge interest--which would be a big advantage for businessmen who need loans. This is a major difference from US style capitalism, where banks can rob at will.



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05 Mar 2010, 9:14 am

pandabear wrote:
As I understand it, Mohammed, the founder of Islam, was originally a salesman/merchant, which would suggest a preference for capitalism. (Jesus was a carpenter--I don't know if he was a union member--but this would imply a Christian preference for socialism).

It is also my understanding that Islamic banks do not charge interest--which would be a big advantage for businessmen who need loans. This is a major difference from US style capitalism, where banks can rob at will.


Hitler was a housepainter. Is that significant?



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05 Mar 2010, 10:41 am

pandabear wrote:
So, it seems that Communism would be the preferred state of affairs for Christians.


It was all voluntary. Communism is forced.

2 Thessalonians 3:10 (New International Version)
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."



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05 Mar 2010, 10:52 am

How is it "voluntary?" People are being murdered for not putting all of their money at the apostles' feet. It is more like a Jim Jones style cult.



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05 Mar 2010, 11:43 am

No, they weren't being murdered for not putting all of their money at the apostles feet.



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05 Mar 2010, 12:24 pm

I don't think capitalism is evil. I don't think the world has ever seen such a thing as pure capitalism. I don't think the question makes sense. I voted anarchy.



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05 Mar 2010, 12:50 pm

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No, they weren't being murdered for not putting all of their money at the apostles feet.


What? Yes they were!



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05 Mar 2010, 12:52 pm

I don't think God cares too much about what form of economic control we exert over one another.



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05 Mar 2010, 12:59 pm

pandabear wrote:
What? Yes they were!


Show me the passage where the apostles murdered someone for not giving them all of their money.



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05 Mar 2010, 12:59 pm

Jimbeaux wrote:
2 Thessalonians 3:10 (New International Version)
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."


Boy, talk about cherry-picking!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVRqdhfFAXw[/youtube]



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05 Mar 2010, 1:03 pm

Jimbeaux wrote:
pandabear wrote:
What? Yes they were!


Show me the passage where the apostles murdered someone for not giving them all of their money.


It is quoted above. The apostles murdered him, made it look like God did it, and then wrote it up that way.



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05 Mar 2010, 1:07 pm

They died because they lied to the Holy Spirit. Your conclusion that they murdered him for not giving them all of their money is unsupported supposition.



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05 Mar 2010, 1:09 pm

pandabear wrote:
Jimbeaux wrote:
Boy, talk about cherry-picking!


Its not cherry picking. Christians are supposed to voluntarily share their possessions to help those who cannot work, not have them forcibly taken from them at the point of a gun as in communism to help those who are too lazy to work.