You can have a partner in Heaven-and Have Sex there!! !

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27 Apr 2010, 5:21 am

Sounds like losing your mind.



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27 Apr 2010, 1:36 pm

there is no heaven.


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27 Apr 2010, 4:48 pm

Prove it!


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27 Apr 2010, 6:46 pm

Bwahahahaha! Nice try.

Existence of something can and must be proven. If it can't be, it doesn't exist by default.

Religion and all associated "beliefs" are nothing more than social influence and collective delusion.



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27 Apr 2010, 6:58 pm

This thread does not belong in the "Love and Dating" forum.


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27 Apr 2010, 7:07 pm

Do you still get to yell Oh God Oh God Oh God there? :P



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27 Apr 2010, 8:31 pm

Dilbert wrote:
Bwahahahaha! Nice try.

Existence of something can and must be proven. If it can't be, it doesn't exist by default.

Religion and all associated "beliefs" are nothing more than social influence and collective delusion.


You're entitled to your opinions.


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28 Apr 2010, 4:08 am

Dilbert wrote:
Existence of something can and must be proven. If it can't be, it doesn't exist by default.


would beg to differ. the mere fact that something has not yet been proven doesn't mean that it will remain unproven for all time. what the smartset thinks it "knows" is but a tiny fraction of what remains which is unknown.



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28 Apr 2010, 4:40 am

auntblabby wrote:
Dilbert wrote:
Existence of something can and must be proven. If it can't be, it doesn't exist by default.


would beg to differ. the mere fact that something has not yet been proven doesn't mean that it will remain unproven for all time. what the smartset thinks it "knows" is but a tiny fraction of what remains which is unknown.


Yes, for example,did microbes exist before the invention of the microscope?



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02 May 2010, 5:10 pm

Nice little idea. But if you don't mind, I'm gonna play devil's advocate. I'm all for dreaming about what the afterlife might be like, and I certainly won't say that it can't possibly be like that, but it kind of sets alarmbells off in my head if someone is clearly preaching something for the sake of wishful thinking. A lot of us here on the forum seem to be lonely singles, so you come along and say "Hey, no worries, we'll get love in heaven".

Anyway, it's a bit christian-oriented. What about those of us who believe in other gods?

But looking at it from the christian perspective: There's one passage where Jesus tells a story of a woman who was re-married seven times, and people ask him which of those seven men will be her husband in heaven. And he replies something along the lines of that no one is cause we're not married in heaven, something like that.

Also, I find the idea a bit too idealistic, because the sad truth is, that some of us have more than one Love-of-our-life. We can be happily married, and then our partner dies, and then years later we meet another person whom we love just as much. It would be kind of sad to sort of dismiss the first partner as not having been the right one after all..


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Dilbert wrote:
Existence of something can and must be proven. If it can't be, it doesn't exist by default.


would beg to differ. the mere fact that something has not yet been proven doesn't mean that it will remain unproven for all time. what the smartset thinks it "knows" is but a tiny fraction of what remains which is unknown.


Science agrees with Dilbert here. If I claim that fairies exist, people won't believe me. Fairies will be considered non-existant by science until one has been filmed/documented. No, the fact we've never seen one doesn't disprove the fact that fairies exist, and we're free to believe whatever, but the default really is to assume it doesn't exist.



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03 May 2010, 12:19 am

Kewona wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Dilbert wrote:
Existence of something can and must be proven. If it can't be, it doesn't exist by default.


would beg to differ. the mere fact that something has not yet been proven doesn't mean that it will remain unproven for all time. what the smartset thinks it "knows" is but a tiny fraction of what remains which is unknown.


Science agrees with Dilbert here. If I claim that fairies exist, people won't believe me. Fairies will be considered non-existant by science until one has been filmed/documented. No, the fact we've never seen one doesn't disprove the fact that fairies exist, and we're free to believe whatever, but the default really is to assume it doesn't exist.

Science has not proven, or demonstrated, that God or the little pink fairy or the flying spaghetti monster doesn't exist. I'll go a bit further than that and say I don't believe science can even address this question, with "God" suitably defined. Personally, I don't believe that anybody has the means to present God and at the same time reasonably manage to persuade everyone that the God being presented is indeed God. Thus, I do not believe that the hypothesis "God does not exist" is falsifiable (assuming nobody has the means to present God and we don't all have the ability to recognise God upon witnessing it), so I do not believe that it is scientific. I imagine we both agree that "God exists" is not falsifiable either, with present methods.



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03 May 2010, 12:55 am

While this started as L&D, I am moving it to PPR since the subject and tone is no longer in line with that subforum.


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03 May 2010, 5:46 am

Aimless wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Dilbert wrote:
Existence of something can and must be proven. If it can't be, it doesn't exist by default.


would beg to differ. the mere fact that something has not yet been proven doesn't mean that it will remain unproven for all time. what the smartset thinks it "knows" is but a tiny fraction of what remains which is unknown.


Yes, for example,did microbes exist before the invention of the microscope?


They did. Think of all the plagues that vexed mankind before lenses were invented. And the sun had more than six planets before lenses were invented.

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03 May 2010, 11:04 am

ruveyn wrote:
Aimless wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Dilbert wrote:
Existence of something can and must be proven. If it can't be, it doesn't exist by default.


would beg to differ. the mere fact that something has not yet been proven doesn't mean that it will remain unproven for all time. what the smartset thinks it "knows" is but a tiny fraction of what remains which is unknown.


Yes, for example,did microbes exist before the invention of the microscope?


They did. Think of all the plagues that vexed mankind before lenses were invented. And the sun had more than six planets before lenses were invented.

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I know, :) that was rhetorical.



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03 May 2010, 11:20 am

Heaven can wait topic

Always the skeptic, I will wait until more evidence, please.


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03 May 2010, 11:44 am

Even if there is this heaven with sex in it, we can already create (horribly unhealthy) states of bliss that are as good as a continuous orgasm using neurostimulation or drugs down here, wouldn't actual eternal bliss kind of render sex obsolete?