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If you were a demon, how would you corrupt the souls of people of the world?

Promoting pornography to seduce people to unwholesome affairs	0%	[ 0 ]
Destroying families to corrupt children.	5%	[ 1 ]
Instilling people with hatred, and a desire for war and violence.	18%	[ 4 ]
Using human greed to destroy virtue.	5%	[ 1 ]
Corrupting further the coercive powers of government.	5%	[ 1 ]
Removing the natural order that government provides.	0%	[ 0 ]
Starting crazy demon cults.	5%	[ 1 ]
Starting relatively sane demon cults.	0%	[ 0 ]
Weakening human wills with temptation.	0%	[ 0 ]
Slandering good people and organizations, and promoting Godless atheism.	5%	[ 1 ]
Creating crazy threads with stupid polls on internet forums.	9%	[ 2 ]
Giving all power in the world to Awesomelyglorious so that he might engage in his terrible plans.	23%	[ 5 ]
All of the above, while playing strip Russian Roulette	14%	[ 3 ]
Other	5%	[ 1 ]
Just show me the results.	9%	[ 2 ]

Total votes : 22

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25 May 2010, 9:28 pm

Sand wrote:

On that standard are you not considering your morality superior to God's?

I suppose that would enter into the question at some point.

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26 May 2010, 12:40 am

Selling my soul...

OK, I need to think about that one. I've answered something similar to this in another thread.

Based on the conclusions I've drawn about the nature of the soul, selling it is impossible. I look at the soul as something that is on loan from God which will ultimately be required in return, possibly in addition to certain interest and penalties (or dividends if the person has done well with it).

That said, any "sale" of the soul is immediately null and void the instant the transaction is made. So sure, I suppose I COULD sell my soul if it meant accomplishing a certain purpose, like world peace, ending hunger, cleaning up the environment, fully restoring the ozone layer, expand the polar ice caps, whatever. Some greater good for all mankind. The problem here is the transaction would be knowingly deceitful, for which the demon could receive no payment from me and/or my soul. However, I can defend myself by saying "I'm an imperfect person and can't help that I make mistakes. I'm very sorry, but you should have known that from the start." The demon, a deceitful spirit by nature, would be forced to understand this and relinquish my soul at a loss.

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26 May 2010, 12:59 am

AngelRho wrote:

Based on the conclusions I've drawn about the nature of the soul, selling it is impossible. I look at the soul as something that is on loan from God which will ultimately be required in return, possibly in addition to certain interest and penalties (or dividends if the person has done well with it).

Oh, well that's only because Christianity is wrong about the nature of the soul. If a devil is telling you that you can sell your soul and is only offering you something if you do so, then by goodness, you certainly must be able to sell your soul, as reading a book certainly can't give you more knowledge about souls than that of a supernatural being with magical powers who actually buys these things.

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26 May 2010, 1:02 am

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Much of religious and especially Jewish and Christian dogma partakes fully of the mercantile ethics of value and money dealings so it is amusing to see God as the supreme capitalist lending and borrowing just like humanity. Nature, of course, has no such ethic. Air and land and mineral resources and energy from the Sun are laid out for the taking without payment until some human takes possession and demands compensation.

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26 May 2010, 1:11 am

AG, you should know that in recent times (see : video games), demons can corrupt others merely with their blood, or their presence. <.< That or just plain old mind control. :>

Uusually though, try using any of the 7 deadly sins and there's bound to be someone that'll capitulate.

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26 May 2010, 2:42 am

Would it be easier to get to the point of the OP if we exchange "sell your soul" with "book a stay in a magic torture chamber"?

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26 May 2010, 2:44 am

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Would it be easier to get to the point of the OP if we exchange "sell your soul" with "book a stay in a magic torture chamber"?

Sure, why not?

I just like "selling soul". It has a nice aesthetic. You don't get that with "book a stay in a magic torture chamber".

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26 May 2010, 12:59 pm

How the heck is strip russian roulette supposed to work? You remove an article of clothing every time you shoot yourself in the head with a magnum?

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26 May 2010, 1:01 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

AngelRho wrote:

Ok... if a demon/devil says so, it must be true... lol

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26 May 2010, 1:09 pm

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How the heck is strip russian roulette supposed to work? You remove an article of clothing every time you shoot yourself in the head with a magnum?

Check the comic posted in the OP. On a more realistic note, you could remove an article of clothing every time you survive, so that by the end everyone is either naked or dead.

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26 May 2010, 1:09 pm

kalantir wrote:

How the heck is strip russian roulette supposed to work? You remove an article of clothing every time you shoot yourself in the head with a magnum?

You shoot yourself in the head with a magnum, then others have to remove the clothing.

Just read the comic, it is educational.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db ... 1587#comic

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26 May 2010, 1:42 pm

If I was a demon or the devil I would give all power to AG to corrupt all the souls of the world.

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26 May 2010, 1:46 pm

Orwell wrote:

Check the comic posted in the OP. On a more realistic note, you could remove an article of clothing every time you survive, so that by the end everyone is either naked or dead.

My sense of humor is very twisted, but I find that funny. The kind of scene that would create would be so horrifying on so many levels that it must be hilarious.

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26 May 2010, 2:27 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Check the comic posted in the OP. On a more realistic note, you could remove an article of clothing every time you survive, so that by the end everyone is either naked or dead.

My sense of humor is very twisted, but I find that funny. The kind of scene that would create would be so horrifying on so many levels that it must be hilarious.

It would be a party for necrophiliacs, though.

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26 May 2010, 2:29 pm

Orwell wrote:

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Check the comic posted in the OP. On a more realistic note, you could remove an article of clothing every time you survive, so that by the end everyone is either naked or dead.

My sense of humor is very twisted, but I find that funny. The kind of scene that would create would be so horrifying on so many levels that it must be hilarious.

It would be a party for necrophiliacs, though.

Oh yes!!

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26 May 2010, 2:42 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Check the comic posted in the OP. On a more realistic note, you could remove an article of clothing every time you survive, so that by the end everyone is either naked or dead.

My sense of humor is very twisted, but I find that funny. The kind of scene that would create would be so horrifying on so many levels that it must be hilarious.

It would be a party for necrophiliacs, though.

Oh yes!!

It's the only game demons, necrophiliacs and cultists can enjoy together.

'cept for internet poker.

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