Sarah Palin: An Object of Scorn?

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22 Jul 2010, 8:54 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

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Legally within their rights, but that still sucks. Can you not see how? Even though they may have every legal right to do this, that it still is not helpful even for them? Putting a mosque right at the location of one of the worst Jihadist attacks is about as sensitive as building as building an Air Force recruitment center in Hiroshima or Nagasaki.

Um... no, I really can't. For one, they are not building the mosque on Ground Zero. It's a couple blocks away. Besides that, these Muslims had nothing to do with 9/11. You may as well say it's "insensitive" to build churches in North America because Christians annihilated the indigenous population here. I mean, this is just completely ridiculous. I can't understand how it's even a controversy.

I'm sorry, I thought the Ground-Zero Mosque name had something to do with its location.

It's just a hyped-up media distraction with little relevance.

That's as annoying as carnival merchants.

At least the carnies aren't normally divisive.

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22 Jul 2010, 9:45 pm

skafather84 wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

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I'm sorry, I thought the Ground-Zero Mosque name had something to do with its location.

It's just a hyped-up media distraction with little relevance.

And this, everyone, is why you should always ignore Palin's twitter updates. "Death panels" and "Ground Zero Mosques" are little more than a figment of her deluded partisan imagination.

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23 Jul 2010, 9:31 am

Orwell wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

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iamnotaparakeet wrote:

I'm sorry, I thought the Ground-Zero Mosque name had something to do with its location.

It's just a hyped-up media distraction with little relevance.

And this, everyone, is why you should always ignore Palin's twitter updates. "Death panels" and "Ground Zero Mosques" are little more than a figment of her deluded partisan imagination.

The scary thing is that the right is starting to steal more and more of their crazy stories from Alex Jones. Glenn Beck is essentially a mainstream version of Alex Jones right down to the over-emotional bipolar theatrics.

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27 Jul 2010, 11:05 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjGJPPRD3u0&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Ok, I think I officially hate the Republicans.

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27 Jul 2010, 11:15 am

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjGJPPRD3u0&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Ok, I think I officially hate the Republicans.

"The audacity of Jihad"? Y'know, given that the people who made this ad probably don't even know what "audacity" means (and considering the random shot of Obama) I'm thinking they were intending some sort of pun on Obama's book.

Can we please have a serious opposition party now? I mean, the Republicans are disqualified by now, right? We have to have some sort of alternative to the Democrats.

EDIT: Just visited their site. I suppose they want to erect a shrine to Reagan at Ground Zero. Seriously, why is Reagan so revered among right-wingers? It's worse than the Cult of Lenin.

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27 Jul 2010, 11:33 am

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjGJPPRD3u0&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Ok, I think I officially hate the Republicans.

That CAN'T be real. Might as well just start calling for their round-up to be "deloused" with Zyclon-B before being "locked up".

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27 Jul 2010, 12:09 pm

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That CAN'T be real. Might as well just start calling for their round-up to be "deloused" with Zyclon-B before being "locked up".

It looks like it is real.

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27 Jul 2010, 12:24 pm

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That CAN'T be real. Might as well just start calling for their round-up to be "deloused" with Zyclon-B before being "locked up".

It looks like it is real.

It's hard to be certain. Parodies of the right are almost always indistinguishable from the right itself.

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27 Jul 2010, 12:28 pm

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That CAN'T be real. Might as well just start calling for their round-up to be "deloused" with Zyclon-B before being "locked up".

It looks like it is real.

Apparently they are a real group. A CATO article slamming an earlier claim by these fear-mongering racist pricks.

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2008/10/ ... -is-wrong/

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27 Jul 2010, 3:02 pm

The fact of this discussion demonstrates how importantly this institution is needed.

There are millions of muslim US citizens, people who are being demonized by the actions of a tiny subset of their co-religionists.

Like it or not, the United States is a pluralist society, in which muslim citizens have precisely the same place as every other citizen. Pleas for muslims to withhold from the exercise of civic freedoms on the basis that they are perceived to have been the aggressors simply serves to underscore that for some, freedom and liberty are merely buzzwords to be used at the speaker's discretion, rather than fundamental principles underlying the State.

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27 Jul 2010, 4:02 pm

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If the "peaceful" Muslims had put on a Million Muslim March Against Terrorism this would not have happened. But they did not say boo! in public. Silence implies consent or agreement.

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29 Jul 2010, 1:48 pm

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Like it or not, the United States is a pluralist society, in which muslim citizens have precisely the same place as every other citizen.

"Like it or not, this is how it is" is hardly a compelling argument. What is now the United States was once a bunch of British colonies, but some people didn't like that. The United States practiced slavery for years, but some people didn't like that either.

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29 Jul 2010, 2:04 pm

ruveyn wrote:

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If the "peaceful" Muslims had put on a Million Muslim March Against Terrorism this would not have happened. But they did not say boo! in public. Silence implies consent or agreement.

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So what you're implying is that all Muslims are violent terrorists or terrorists in wait?

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29 Jul 2010, 2:22 pm

I lived in Turkey for two years. Not once did the Muslims who live there make threats against us. Closest there was was a garbage strike because the Turks weren't getting paid enough.

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29 Jul 2010, 2:40 pm

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If the "peaceful" Muslims had put on a Million Muslim March Against Terrorism this would not have happened. But they did not say boo! in public. Silence implies consent or agreement.

ruveyn

Right..... because you've engaged in how many million man marches?? Look, ruveyn, your requirement is silly, you are likely a hypocrite, and silence does not imply consent or agreement. Particularly given that given that these people are living in our society, if anything, they're agreeing or consenting to OUR rules. I mean, heck, you do have to recognize that the paradoxical conclusion of two (or more) different assents to incompatible ideas is found through your method.

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30 Jul 2010, 1:47 pm

ruveyn wrote:

Silence implies consent or agreement.

I did not know that silence = self incrimination, when it comes to sharing similar characteristics with criminals even if you were not involve at all.

I have yet to see any court using that "brilliant" idea of yours succesfully against someone.

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