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There needs to be backup, in any case... even for people for whom psychologists do more harm than good, there has to be some way to plan for the possibility that some day you'll want to kill yourself. Of course not everybody is aware of their risk, but once you're diagnosed with depression, once you start toying with the idea, it's really important to put some kind of prevention strategy into place. Otherwise, one day it might get bad enough that you actually make a suicide attempt, and then it's down to luck whether you survive. Don't leave it to luck... if you're prone to depression, find ways to predict and head off the really bad stuff before it gets dangerous.

Yes. I have several strategies that help keep me from implementing any plans I've made. So far, successful.

They can fail, but so far haven't. Most of them involve maintaining distance between planning and execution, or thinking about it and planning.

I am nervous about the fact that my new therapist is aware that I have made attempts and that I have a plan. I was, at least, classified as low risk at this time.

I was just reading the The ASPECT Consultancy Report - "A National Report on the Needs of Adults with Asperger Syndrome - can be downloaded, free of charge, from this website. This report was compiled by Luke Beardon, Senior Lecturer in Autism, Sheffield Hallam University and the late Genevieve Edmonds, an individual with Asperger Syndrome, who tragically died in February 2008." http://www.aspectaction.org.uk/

Amongst adults with undetected Asperger's, depression / anxiety and suicidal thoughts or actions are a huge problem. Some people are only detected as a consequence of a suicide attempt, and many (we must assume) continue to be treated for depression / anxiety without their underlying Asperger's being identified.

It is hugely important not to stigmatise the discussion of suicide, because that is the most important moment to detect and intervene with a person at risk.

There is a very moving and informative suicide letter written by an extremely talented young PhD student and programmer called Bill Zeller, with some discussion, at http://gizmodo.com/5726667/the-agonizin ... e=true&s=i and plenty more discussion if you search for his name. It gives a good idea of one mental state preceding suicide, where all possibility of discussion and intervention are closed by the preconception of hopelessness.

Reporting that I wanted to kill myself only made things worse. I was put in the phyc ward and had a nervous breakdown and PTSD. I'm STILL trying to overcome the mental scars from being commited at age nine. I am obsessed with the concept of sucide but that's a secret I keep to myself and if I ever do decide to kill myself I will never tell anyone because I don't want to be commited again. I'll just kill myself and let someone find my body. I will never report sucidal intentions to anyone ever again.

I almost got hospitalized once when I said I was going to kill myself with a knife. But I never did it because I was too chicken to. I have also thought about jumping in front of a car to get hit and die but was also too chicken too.

I became hypervigilant from stress about five years ago and got to the point where I couldn't turn my adrenaline off. After about two years my body started doing weird things. I started getting chilled in 100 degree weather, etc. Eventually I couldn't sleep no matter what kind of sleeping medicine I took. Clonidine let me sleep 1 hour per night for 35 days; after that I could not sleep at all for five days. I never had a suicidal thought my entire life. I didn't want to die, but I wanted to escape the torture of not sleeping. I was afraid I was going crazy and was terrified of being institutionalized. I finally got to the point where I couldn't walk, talk or even think from lack of sleep. I lost hope that anything could help me sleep. All I could feel was a horrible burning pain throughout my body. I was admitted to the hospital and injected with Ativan. I refused anti-anxiety medications before because I was afraid of getting addicted. The Ativan saved my life. It was the one thing that allowed me to sleep. I went from 4 MG to 3/4 MG to sleep. Somehow I managed to get most of my physical health back.

I guess everyone has a breaking point, no matter how much they want to live. Stress can do horrible things to a person. It also can be tricky because adrenaline can make you fearless until it burns you out.

When a person feels depressed, anxious, or stressed, in general, the body is letting you know a change is needed. It is important to get help before things possibly get beyond your control. Help can mean many things, but it is possible for a person to overcome depression and be happier than they ever imagined. I was severely depressed in my 20's and made it to the other side to a wonderful life. It's hard to imagine, when your young, how much adversity you will overcome in your life, and how much you may surprise yourself.

NLP is Neuro Linguistic Programming, an amazing discovery in the 1970s inspired from the success of Dr Erickson, an empathetic doctor who used to heal patients using subtle positive hypnotic suggestions. The principal investigators were able to heal Phobias of Traumatized patients in minutes. Psychiatrists can take months or years to do this. And the best part is there is no need to take dangerous/addictive anti-depressants.

NLP explains how our Brain stores the structure of our experiences in its memory banks.
Using appropriate Visualization Strategy, it is possible to steadily change our emotional reaction to our memories and thus change any reaction to a present moment experience.

With awareness of our emotional reaction, we can train our Mind to avoid the feeling of stress and ultimately avoid the State of Depression. No depression = No chance of Suicide.

The Positive Change that ensues from Self-Motivation and Self-Awareness using NLP will slowly spill over into all areas of life.

I intend to create step by step resources on this forum for the benefit of all members, including specific Visualization Scripts which your friends can read to you as you try them.
I will also write about "Reframing" words and thoughts into the positive, to keep the positive State of Mind at all times.

Apologies for sounding so /b/, but this thread is overflowing with bollockks.

My father committed suicide in 2004 and I still get sad about it. It really hurts your family members. For years I kept thinking there's something I should have done to see it coming. I mean there were times when he blatantly hinted that he was unhappy with his life but I mean I was 18 and I never would have thought my father would commit suicide. You just don't think of things like that. He was healthy and young and energetic. It just never crossed my mind. I never knew anything about suicide really until that. Now it's like I wish I knew a little about suicide back then so I could have prevented it, but you can't go back into the past, you can only move forward. Seven years later and I still to this day have dreams that I'm with him like nothing is wrong and then in the dream it hits me that, wait, he's supposed to be gone! And I tell him this and to everyone around me, "wait, he passed away. This isn't real. He's not supposed to be alive." And then he turns sad and then disappears. Then I cry out that I was sorry that I said it and I want him back and I beg for him to come back and that I won't say it again. So just remember, no matter how worthless you may feel, there are ALWAYS people who love you so much and by leaving like that you leave your loved ones in pain for years and years. I just had that dream last night. But he came back again just before the dream ended so it was happier than previous dreams.

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So just remember, no matter how worthless you may feel, there are ALWAYS people who love you so much and by leaving like that you leave your loved ones in pain for years and years
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Absolutely. There is always someone who loves. Knowing this is step one. And knowing that one is never worthless is the second step in eliminating the conditions that lead to suicide.

One can know this, but suicidal feelings are cognitive distortions. It is difficult to believe this. In fact, it has never worked for me, which is why I've had to set up external motivations - such as accountability to other people - which are more effective for me.

The one that has done me the most good is understanding that objectively, I do not want to commit suicide and that when I do it is a transient emotion, not enduring.

I think suicide is only OK when it can't hurt anybody else. If there's anybody left in the world who'd be upset or distressed by your death and then you should try your best to live. I know, some people would say "but nobody cares about me". That's probably a heavily biased, very subjective opinion, though. I know most people would be upset if someone they know committed suicide, be it a co-worker, neighbor, person they say hi to everyday while walking their dogs. Not to mention most people who attempt suicide have plenty of family who'd be very sad and possibly depressed / traumatized for years. It's just a very selfish thing to do.

I don't know why but this comment does not sit well with me at all, I guess I am uncomfortable with the veiw that my life should revolve around the 'betterment of society'. I mean why? why do I want to better a society that has only ever rejected me.......I am having enough trouble as it is without having to focus on what I owe to something that only ever caused me pain. Sorry if this comes of as blunt but its how I feel.

Yes, you're right; a person's value is intrinsic, and has nothing to do with his value to society. But in many cases, it is also encouraging to know that it is possible for anyone to contribute--you can still find a job you can do, a way to help other people, a place in the world. You can still find your niche.

What if you reframe your same view:
"Why should I not wish to contribute to that society which accepts me?"
Like all the forum members here for instance. Every strategy you use with success to overcome a challenge is one more feather in the entire community's cap.

NTs are coming forward now more than ever to understand NDs from the NDs perspective.
This is the era where you "Seize the moment", and make Suicide an obsolete option.

Have you ever been suicidal? Usually the people who love you are the people that are pushing you over the edge.
Saying it is a selfish act just shows how much ignorance you have about it.
I impulsively tried to kill myself because of all the pain I was feeling. I was barely thinking. Besides, if people would have just listened to me I wouldn't have had to go to that length. I'm always being told that my problems aren't that big a deal yet to get people to listen to me I have to kick and scream and resort to desperate measures. Note: I don't do it for attention but because the pain is too much.
It's the most frustrating thing being told it's a selfish act. F**k other people, seriously. They treat me like s*** so they shouldn't be surprised I would resort to it.

Note: I'm actually not suicidal at this moment in time but I'm remembering back when I was.

Suicide is like a permanent pain killer for severe emotional pain. I have no choice but to take a painkiller for my severe pain once a month, and that makes me want to die at times too. No one thinks clearly enough to think about what others would think if they died.