Brainwashed?

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Are we all brainwashed to a certain extent? Or is it just a select "few" who adhere to religious/cultic views?

And if not brainwashed, but influenced, then what's the difference exactly?

I think so at some extent, but if people read and understand the bible it will be a persons choice of their conviction, whatever its about the mark of the beast which is a complex subject requires a whole thread to discuss about, I did not fully understand this until recently, or day of the week they worship.

We shouldn't be afraid of the mark of the beast, as long you follow with the instructions in the bibe your be safe, the answers about the mark of the beast is in Revelation, peoples beware of the mark of the beast it is not to be messed with, people who have obtained this mark will get the wrath of God and thrown in the lake of fire it is that simple.

What day they chose to worship, their personal relationship with Jesus Christ as their personal saviour. Or if they want to believe that Jesus has done for him / her when he died on the cross.

We're all raised to a certain way of life and way of thinking, if that's what you mean. And people who make a conscious decision to change either of those often never lose the underlying mindset of the original one.

I think you have a real point. I was even discussing this with a friend last night before I saw your post. The issue is that we are trained to approach the world in certain ways, and these ways are not neutral. Sometimes this is an ok thing that won't matter for most circumstances. Other times this has a blinding and distracting effect, as we can have difficulty seeing legitimate dissent or entirely engaging positions we disagree with. I know that I have a small paranoia on the matter as well, and recently I have felt especially aware of my tendency to kind of jump the gun on my claims.

Anyone who accepts as true something that not a logical tautology has been "brainwashed". Much of what we claim to "know" is second hand knowledge not directly experienced for verified by us first hand.

ruveyn

Theism 'brainwashed' people to the point where atheism is now allowed to similarly "brainwash" people, especially considering its indoctrination of school children?

Interesting, that one.

You believe what you believe, it's that simple. People challenge your beliefs, they either strengthen or wither into a capitulative nothingness that leaves the challenged and destroyed floating in a vat of otherworldly non-cognisance until someone 'gives' them something in which to believe.

I forget. Which one of us was brainwashed, again?

I think everyone is influenced by their upbringing. It just doesn't always go the way our parents had hoped.

There's a big difference.

For people to put the world around them into context they need a certain amount of a priori to start with - which for the most part is in fact given to them rather than of their own thoughts. From there they also hear things on the news or from authority figures that they literally can't humanly verify as they'd never have the time, money, nor energy to reinvent every wheel they heard about. So, they try to discern character, figure out who they can trust, tend to go with the word of those who make sense to them and, when that word doesn't add up they try to find out why.

As for brainwashing, that's a need that puts group over everything - over science, over interpersonal reality, it also includes the blacklisting of rational examination. People who aren't brainwashed do carry many claims they can't verify but they're trying to approximate reality as much as they can, for those who've been brainwashed that process has capsized, either via their own need for family or by their own need for blind obedience.

Absolutely.

Everyone in the human race is brainwashed, except me, and anyone who agrees with me.

That just goes without saying!

Not quite. Please amend to read:

...and anyone who agrees with me after careful examination and weighing of the available evidence.

I will not have people agreeing with me who have not thought it through.

Let THEM agree with Big Brother, if they like.

Philologos: I think he's taking a stab at brainwashing people .

Seems like brow-beating and being able to come off like the bigger self-righteous a***hole of any conversation is quite a convincing and powerful tool toward controlling people (and no doubt he's joking but - somewhat right at the same time). Brow-beating and self-exaltation is strong stuff toward convincing people that your superior to them and that they should lift you up.

"the bigger self-righteous a***hole of any conversation is quite a convincing and powerful tool toward controlling people "

Dear me.

Language!

I will temporarily assume the colon implies you are describing me, not addressing?

I will further assume your smiling thingy is meant to be disarming, marking humor rather than a hard-hitting critique?

But I am known to misread these things.

But, really! Self-righteous?

I happen to be - izibongo zami, did I say this? - a lifelong teacher focussed on language, son of teachers focussed on language, grandson of two lawyers, great grandson of a preacher. I care about clarity of language and thought and have a lot of old fire horse syndrome correcting papers and classroom performance.

So I bring the stuff out. As others bring out their stuff.

Controlling people? Well, when I had the Professor nameplate on the door I could excercise some control over those actually enrolled in my courses. These days? My wife controls me. I give advice to her and Number 1 Son.

Anyone else feel resisting me is futile?

I see little sign I have controlled certain people into independent thought and checking their facts.