RELIGION- THE WAY FOWARD

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I may have sounded a little harsh, on some other topics but this was only because i was angry at the attitudes towards christianity. I am also very concerned, because the threads here seem to be extremely biassed, and not taking into account at all for the people with aspergers, who are religious.
When I was 15, I had never felt so alone in my life. I had no friends, my parents did not understand my difficulties and was a unhappy, depressed loner. Even though I knew I had been diagnosed with something called 'aspergers syndrome'.
I decided to turn to God for help and soon after I met the most wonderful group of christians, who understood all my diffilculties. I read the bible for guideance, and learnt not to take things to literally. These Christians helped my confidence to build and build and soon I was a very different person. I read books from other people with aspergers and had a lot of luck along the way, and now am trying to live my life the best I can as a normal man. Despite my diffilculties and my lack of eye contact, I have managed to establish a great group of friends at college where I am still attending an IT course. I often pray and thank God, for what he has done for me. From helping me from the point of suicide, to the kind of man I am now. I have learnt not to take things to literally and am almost at the point of being a totally normal, happy sociable guy.
I have still got my talents though (such as being able to memorise, most of the new testemant) of the bible. And boy when you get me near a list, I could be looking for at it for hours. But ultimately, i would appreciate it a bit more if you could think from other peoples feelings and not try and tell people not to be a christian. Thankyou if you have taken the liberty to read this, but anyway I would strongly reccomend at least trying a (good) faith. And trust me asperger problems are recoverable(if your already happy, great, but it i guess you could say i have practially recovered from the diffilcultiy parts of having aspergers. Oh yeah, forms of osteollopthy and natual stuff is pretty good too ( if you havent tried that)- hope to see some replies-hassan (me real name)

I forgot to say, I don't believe in having stuff like aliens as logos because, people who are autsitic are but men. And God will treat every man,woman and child judging to their accordence, being autistic does not make you any better or worse than any other person. We should try to stop labelling ourselves as aliens, and try are very hardest to become happy human beings. (only if you are not happy with the way lifes going already)

I hate being preached to by fanatics like you.

echoes the above but to a lesser extent (e.g., minus the fanatic bit)

You want to know where the negative bias towards Christianity in particular and religion in general comes from? It's because we hate being preached at. It's not like many WPers don't get enough of that crap already "You should be more normal, like your cousin, yadda yadda yadda) but to get it on the one place that's commonly accepted as a safe haven is likely to raise some hackles.

Sorry you don't like the alien logo. Maybe this just isn't the place for you? (Note, I'm not saying "You don't like it? Leave" just more something along the lines of "The community at WP was like this long before you or I came here... just accept it as it is.")

People, here must take into account of other peoples opinion. Trust me I have aspergers, but there is no reason whatsover why I can't have a faith. And I feel that I am the one that is being preached at, by saying you can't have a faith. And all i am saying is the TRUTH, from my point of view.

I'm not saying you can't have a faith. I'm just saying I don't like your arrogant statements about how you know religion is the truth, God helped you out, blah blah blah.

Well, I guess we shall agree to disagree but we'll leave this for other aspies to make there mind up.

And vice versa. A lot of what I've seen from some (note for those of both a Christian and pedantic bent: I said "some", not "all") of the Christians on WP comes awfully close to proselytizing/evangelism which in itself comes scarily close to propaganda/recruiting.
Talk about your religion all you want... just don't be surprised if people don't listen. Some may react with hostility given past experiences with various religions/people of a religion.

Personally, it's none of my business which invisible man in the sky you (or anyone) choose to believe in. Just don't tell me (or others) that theirs is wrong if you can't prove the veracity of yours beyond a shadow of a doubt.

The alien is a symbol of how Aspies feel sometimes, like they are out of place. Haven't you ever felt out of place before? Everyone feels out of place at some time or another and feeling out of place certainly does not mean one is not trying their very hardest to become a happy human being.

Well if you had bothered to read what i said at the top, it said that I had felt out of place ALL MY LIFE, up to when I found God. The reason I am annoyed at the alien sign, is because I don't think we should label ourselves as aliens, just because we have some diffilculties. We are just as good as EVERYBODY ELSE.

Undoubtably. But nor should we hide that we are different.. we are. And if it was god that made us this way, then we should be proud of it, and not hide by pretending and attempting to blend in.

Thats what bugs me about your post. You believe god made us, but you state that we should try to hide our gifts and differences.

Of course you can have faith.

But don't go criticising those that don't need it.

Don't go criticising those who believe in willpower.

Don't go criticising those who take fundamental truths from all religions and reject the isolationist or threatening aspects.

I refuse to believe sodomy sends people to hell, because I've met wonderful homo/bi sexual people.

Most religions I've researched actually have quite similar beliefs once you get down to the details.

To me a true spiritual journey involves looking at all angles.

To me an alien as a metaphor is just as useful as a jesus metaphor.

I see us all as sons and daughters of god, I see conciousness as a representation of the infinite journey to an impossible summit.

So in the end, "god made us" to you means a concious entity chose to create us, I believe conciousness was an inevitable result of evolution.

Though it seems an opposite view, the two can correlate.

I don't think its fair to preach the desire for acceptance and at the same time reject differing views.

I accept science because it created everything I know and use, I accept christianity as it has certain lessons and some beautiful metaphors (ie: father: existence, son: individual identity, holy spirit: ability to relate or express to others). I got obsessed with symbology as opposed to literal definitions because the more I think about it, the more I can apply these to my own life.

I used to have trouble with metaphorical language, and therefore I decided to work it out for myself, and reject a literal interpretation that separates people.

You must accept that something which can be interpreted an infinate number of ways can not be a definition of right and wrong, communication is the key to understanding your own beliefs.

You don't want to label us as aliens thats fine, I'm sure a lot of people don't want to be labelled as anti-christian or atheist simply for attempting to gain a wider view.

Original sin for example, can be seen as a metaphor for mankind not being humble with our environment, the way we change and shape it to suit our whims. A perfect metaphor for knowledge too, in that the more you search, the harder it gets to use faith to believe in a concious being in the sky.

Just my opinions, however I believe certain truths in what I've written can be applied to many different understandings.

If someone says they speak to god, who am I to tell them they're wrong.

If someone says god is motion, and they dream of it (this is my place) how can anyone tell them they're wrong?

Everything that exists is in motion, yet one could never comprehend it all, so it already can apply to the very defintion of god.

I thought it was a humorous gesture of pride.

MUST. RESIST. URGE. TO. DESTORY. PREACHER.

LOGIC LIMIT BREAK!

PREPARE FOR A BLAST OF THOUGHT!

http://www.positiveatheism.org/crt/whichcom.pdf

http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/dilber.htm

http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/ebtomcat.htm#TOMCAT

http://www.positiveatheism.org/crt/emrods.htm

http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/imposs.htm

I TEAR APART PREACHERS AND FANATICS!

Last edited by Flagg on 19 Nov 2006, 3:19 am, edited 2 times in total.

Dude, you misspelled "resist." That's funny.