Brain structure differs in liberals, conservatives: study
No, my political views are merely an extension of my ethical views, which are normative prescriptions about what would be most beneficial to mankind, other organisms, and the planet we share, according to my subjective conception of desirable.
They rounded up some people, found a cool correlative pattern based on their political ID and images of their gray matter, said more studies are needed, and now you're raging against them. That's all I'm getting.
I'm a gun-loving Leftist with a gay Republican brother. That's what you get for trying to put people into boxes, and why sometimes in studies it's best to let people self-identify.
Uh. The fact that it qualifies the assertion with "appears to", as opposed to a bald declaration,
like yours that fear doesn't revolve around politics (I'm sure you meant politics don't revolve around fear).
It would appear, as the authors of this study say, that more studies are needed.
How are they even remotely certain that entire political views revolve around fear and ambiguity tolerance since both sides fear certain things and tolerate ambiguity on certain things? Like whenever it comes to poverty, liberals tend to be tolerant about the vague idea of throwing money and books at the poor to help em. Likewise whenever it comes to family values conservatives tend to be tolerant about the vaguenesss of what "family values" are other than the nuclear family model.
I did see this one study that shows both conservatives and liberals are functioning in their limbic system when it comes to things they're biased on and they swore up and down they were being rational when the activity in their limbic systems were way more active when things got heated than their prefrontal cortexes. I'll post a thread once I find this. I think the dude's name was Dr. Drew Western or w/e.
Conservatives tolerate ambiguity about what family values mean to them? The more religious and conservative a person gets, the more dogmatic and rigid they are about what constitutes a proper family, gender roles, etc.
- What feminists call "patriarchy" (a gender-based social-dominance orientation favoring males over females)
- No abortion
- No premarital or extramarital sex
- Focus on having and raising children
- Instilling children with religion
- No divorce
Liberals tolerate more diverse models of the family: remarriage, gay marriage, gay adoption, childless couples, living single, etc.
Conservatives tolerate ambiguity about what family values mean to them? The more religious and conservative a person gets, the more dogmatic and rigid they are about what constitutes a proper family, gender roles, etc.
- What feminists call "patriarchy" (a gender-based social-dominance orientation favoring males over females)
- No abortion
- No premarital or extramarital sex
- Focus on having and raising children
- Instilling children with religion
- No divorce
I've always wondered if the Con-Artists have a position on single fathers. On the one hand, they tend to idealize the "nuclear family", on the other hand... I haven't really heard them complain at all about it.
- Wow! so this is how you make bullet points!

First of all, we've seen recently that the real conartists are liberals not conservatives, though that is also insulting some conartists, because even they don't stoop as low as liberals.
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If the truth shows there is a good reason for a cause of concern, then a rational individual is correct in being concerned. Fox News gets more viewers than the other media outlets combined because they have something called journalistic integrity. They wouldn't be killing their competition in ratings, if the other outlets didn't all have serious credibility issues.
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What you did wrong here is you didn't come up with something equally catchy and callow - like lie-berals. There, I gave you some ammo. Pleasure to coach ya.

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Clearly it's all about credibility.
The Weekly World News was once among the highest circulated papers in the world (peaked at 1.2 million per issue).

Clearly it's all about credibility.
Actually National Enquirer lectured the New York Times, on Journalistic Integrity, so its a strange world. If Fox News actually aired stories like weekly world news, they wouldn't even be on the air or would be like Comedy Central's Daily Show.
Liberal v. conservative... Fight, Round 2,345,890,001, Let's Get Ready To Rumble!! ! *Begins sleeping*
I tire of the Democrats, as they end up being wimps who cave when a Republican yells boo. And the Republicans need to shut up when they have nothing to say. There is no government for the people, here, folks. They fight back and forth, and in the end, we lose... If you need some proof, just look at the recent budget "battle."
They cut Education... Education...Edu-we-hate smart-people-cation! Then, added to Defense spending. Who wins here? Not the kids, not the parents, not the schools... The government needs a new plane to not fight with.
The government is a tank with two turrets, both cannons pointed at each other, as they drive over our faces, and the driver gets a tax cut. The top 1% are getting richer with each passing fiscal year, indicating that these fights aren't doing any good.
We don't have two political parties, we have a bowl of crap looking in the mirror at itself. So, don't divide into liberals v. conservatives... If you must divide, divide into poor v. rich...
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What they seem to be unsure of is whether this is a cause or an effect, but what they seem sure on is that these differences are either what political views revolve around or are major factors to one's political views. I find both of these ridiculous since political views involve such a complex interaction between all parts of the brain that you can't just narrow it down to one or two sections of the brain.
Such is why they didn't make a claim that no other parts of the brain were involved,
merely that there is a correlation between political ideology and what can be found on a brain scan of the regions they examined.
An EXTREMELY modest claim is what they made, and it was consistent with their findings.
And your assertion that extremely complex interaction between all parts of the brain are needed for political views to form is exactly that-
a bald assertion.
It could very well be that our worldview is almost entirely determined by which of a few extremely basic and timeless motivators we are more sensitive to.
They didn't say political views revolve around fear.
They published the results of brain imagery as correlated to political view,
with the implication that fear might be a MORE pronounced component of a conservative's view as opposed to a liberal's.
I'm sorry this is so upsetting.
If you can find an absolutist statement among the researchers, I'll eat my hat.
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What they seem to be unsure of is whether this is a cause or an effect, but what they seem sure on is that these differences are either what political views revolve around or are major factors to one's political views. I find both of these ridiculous since political views involve such a complex interaction between all parts of the brain that you can't just narrow it down to one or two sections of the brain.
Such is why they didn't make a claim that no other parts of the brain were involved,
merely that there is a correlation between political ideology and what can be found on a brain scan of the regions they examined.
An EXTREMELY modest claim is what they made, and it was consistent with their findings.
And your assertion that extremely complex interaction between all parts of the brain are needed for political views to form is exactly that-
a bald assertion.
It could very well be that our worldview is almost entirely determined by which of a few extremely basic and timeless motivators we are more sensitive to.
They didn't say political views revolve around fear.
They published the results of brain imagery as correlated to political view,
with the implication that fear might be a MORE pronounced component of a conservative's view as opposed to a liberal's.
I'm sorry this is so upsetting.
If you can find an absolutist statement among the researchers, I'll eat my hat.
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Yes, that would be very interesting. I'm trying to find where this was published, but having no luck....
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For there is another kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions; indifference and inaction and slow decay.
I tire of the Democrats, as they end up being wimps who cave when a Republican yells boo. And the Republicans need to shut up when they have nothing to say. There is no government for the people, here, folks. They fight back and forth, and in the end, we lose... If you need some proof, just look at the recent budget "battle."
They cut Education... Education...Edu-we-hate smart-people-cation! Then, added to Defense spending. Who wins here? Not the kids, not the parents, not the schools... The government needs a new plane to not fight with.
The government is a tank with two turrets, both cannons pointed at each other, as they drive over our faces, and the driver gets a tax cut. The top 1% are getting richer with each passing fiscal year, indicating that these fights aren't doing any good.
We don't have two political parties, we have a bowl of crap looking in the mirror at itself. So, don't divide into liberals v. conservatives... If you must divide, divide into poor v. rich...
Indeed. The game is divide and conquer. Smoke and mirrors. Sleight of hand.
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