RELIGION- THE WAY FOWARD

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Go away, fundie.

You don't see patterns, information or messages. You infer such things. The fingerprints are your own. So, you can learn something about yourself by considering how you view the world.

I would be interested to know what is the evidence.

Well, when you can look through my eyes and share my view of the world and say that, I will accept it. But for the time being, I don't.

But if you can't at least give a reason for not accepting it, you won't learn about yourself or others or the world.

I did *not accept* it for quite a while, then had psychiatrists tell me it was all in my head, for 14 years of heavily medicated time, and it didn't relent in the slightest. Nothing had the slightest impact on these perceptions. In fact, they got clearer and clearer as time went on, not the opposite. Eventually I had to admit and acknowledge what it was I was seeing.

Then just enjoy it, man. Don't let these things worry you so much. Make peace.

How did everything get here? Logic cannot conclude this! Dont you think being anti-God is as closed minded as being pro-god. The thing is, god can exist in many forms (universe, a rock, etc) where as 'nothing' can only exist in one form - nothing (God may even BE "nothing"). One possibility versus a seemingly infinite amount of possibilities - You're believing in the 1?

As for choosing a religion - I believe they derived from meditation practices (that I've found, anyways, through logic and a bit of research) which means that meditation, if you want a "religion," would be your PRACTICE (and not your belief, that should come naturally)

Ever since meditating, my 'anti god' belief disappeared.. I used to mock religious people, god, etc but now, just like that, I cannot. I do not mock either side as no side is proven correct. Philosophy is about as close to a TRUE belief i will walk into. I feel most religious people just throw god around like an item versus a true, CORE belief. The oldest religions and some of the most potentially peaceful religions are those that use meditation - Hindu and Buddhism

I am so proud to have aspergers and be a christian. God has given me wonderful talents. And it is great that I can now memorise most of the new testament.
And if somebody has got something negative to say, go post it elsewhere, only contribute if you have something positive to say.

lol Jesus was so gay haha funny!! !!!1111oneone

If you're referring to the universe itself, this is correct. It's ludicrous to refer to things prior to the universe's existence, given that so was the inception of time, itself. It can no more have "gotten here" than water could get wet.

Not at all. Skepticism is an incisive but essential tool for exploring the universe around us. Taking anything at all for granted goes against science. It is based upon skepticism that we continually test and retest theories instead of enshrining them into natural law after a few tests. To realize something as a truth is to be defeated in disproving it. This is why I have been as gentle as I have with Adam. He didn't weakly accept his delusions as reality. He challenged them until he could find no logical alternative to accepting them. Perhaps he's a bit nutty, but I find his character impeccable.

In other words, you are saying that "god" is an empty term. In other words, the term is wholly useless, much like the sort of apologist you seem to be getting this stuff from.

No, I'm believing in none of them without any rational basis. I'm a pure skeptic. I respect other skeptics, no matter their religious inclinations.

I'm not anti-God. I'm anti- the misuse of the concept of God. One such misuse is to think that the existence of God is a matter of evidence. If this were so, then God would be just another scientific hypothesis and therefore subject to the laws of science. The role of God is then reduced to the relatively trivial.

I don't believe either that God exists nor that God doesn't exist. Nor am I an agnostic, because an agnostic is someone who doesn't know, but at least thinks there is something that could in principle be known. My position is that beliefs about God are not matters that can be true or false or knowable. One's beliefs about God are more like definitions, and of course definitions are neither true nor false, they are just ways in which one decides to use language. One's beliefs about God are ways in which one defines one's world and one's life.

I'm actually a Buddhist. Buddhism has neither belief nor disbelief in God.

Rory and AsAdam2Eve

Your arguments rest on the fallacy that human senses are perfect. This is far from true. Take me for example, I'm a music-color syn. Just because you see the colors doesn't mean they actually exist. A color blind person sees different colors then you and me. It's easy to foul up and trick them. For me a few synapse popped where they shouldn't be, hence when I hear SOAD I see yellow-greens or when I listen to Mudvayne I see muddy shades of red. Just because see the water in the desert doesn't mean it's their, it's merely a mirage caused by a temperature difference. Take your meds for your own good AsAdam2Eve. Untreated Schizophrenia can lead to permanent insanity.

Flattery will get you everywhere; Entitlement will earn you scorn. Your post indicates that you feel you deserve treatment above and beyond what everyone else should get. Thats offensive to most Aspies, who have a great sensativity for equality.

I'll keep that in mind....

"When pride comes, then comes disgrace; but with the humble is wisdom." (Proverbs 11:2 RSV)

re: no negative comments... so you want this to be some sort of self-congratulatory, masturbative thread? Good luck with that.


Y'gotta earn respect. Thus far I've seen zero respect from you in re others' stances on religion or spirituality.