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04 Jan 2009, 5:14 am

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yes because the actions of a few are representative of over a billion people

amirite?


The 9/11 outrage was a direct consequence of the doctrine. The Muslims who are not Jihadists are not Jihadists to the extent that they are not devout. The key to the thing is how those who are not Muslim are to be treated. In general those who are not Muslim are either to be slain or to be rendered dhummi, strictly according to the Q'ran and the Haddith. The basic objective of Islam is the destruction or subjugation of the dar al harb (the unbelievers).

Fortunately for the human race, most adherents of religions are adherents out of habit rather than deep and passionate conviction.

Islam is a collection of some very bad memes as the rest of us are finding out. Not a day passes without a suicide bombing in the name of Allah the Merciful and the Compassionate. Wait until the next outrage and have your excuses ready.

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04 Jan 2009, 9:00 am

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Delirium wrote:
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yes because the actions of a few are representative of over a billion people

amirite?


The 9/11 outrage was a direct consequence of the doctrine. The Muslims who are not Jihadists are not Jihadists to the extent that they are not devout. The key to the thing is how those who are not Muslim are to be treated. In general those who are not Muslim are either to be slain or to be rendered dhummi, strictly according to the Q'ran and the Haddith. The basic objective of Islam is the destruction or subjugation of the dar al harb (the unbelievers).

Fortunately for the human race, most adherents of religions are adherents out of habit rather than deep and passionate conviction.

Islam is a collection of some very bad memes as the rest of us are finding out. Not a day passes without a suicide bombing in the name of Allah the Merciful and the Compassionate. Wait until the next outrage and have your excuses ready.

ruveyn



Wow, I am glad you are not a Muslim! :)

BTW in my humble opinion you are not quite right (well quite wrong actually :) ). If you like I can give some direct quotes from Quran and hadith that specifically say to deal with non-believers kindly and justly.

It is bad enough having a bunch of nutters hi-jacking Islam to support their psychotic tendencies - leave alone educated people rendering millions of Muslims beliefs weak and awarding the despicable terrorists the status of "devout Muslims".

So effectively if I don't want to blow up innocent people (which Islam totally prohibits one to do) I am not a devout Muslim according to you!

For reference I can read and understand Arabic (don't have my knowledge based on, in my opinion a rather poor Penguin translation of Quran or www). Having spend all my life studying major faiths - I feel I that I still have so much more to learn.

Just one question about your views. Why so dogmatic?

Best to finish with the words of my favourite philospher, Socrates:

True wisdom comes to each of us when we realize how little we understand about life, ourselves, and the world around us.



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04 Jan 2009, 7:17 pm

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Islam is a collection of some very bad memes

Actually all religions contain both good and bad ideas/memes, people can use religion to justify evil and they can use it to justify good. People are free to choose between good and evil, and face the consequences of their choice.

If you choose to generalize, one of the consequences is that people will view you as a bigot.


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04 Jan 2009, 7:42 pm

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Open thread topic

Where is MissPickwickian? :wink:


Good question.... :?


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04 Jan 2009, 9:06 pm

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I'm suprised the term "islamofascism" hasn't come up yet. I hate that term, too. I always hear neo-cons and other intolerant, nationalist warmongers throwing that word around carelessly, without any consideration for what Islam and fascism are really about. It doesn't make any sense. It's like, who ya calling fascist, wh***y.

The thing that's great about Islam is that it absolutely terrifies the hell out of small minded, privileged Westerners.



I think the reason for the coining of the term islamofascist has to do with the legacy of the vicious i Haj Amin El Husseini, the grand mufti of Jerusalem during the 30s and 40s. He ethusiastically supported Hitler and the Nazis and tried in Vain to forge an alliance between militant islamists and the 3rd reich.



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04 Jan 2009, 10:34 pm

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So sue me. :mrgreen:


I have green eyes so what what is your point?



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13 Mar 2009, 4:16 pm

Haliphron wrote:
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I'm suprised the term "islamofascism" hasn't come up yet. I hate that term, too. I always hear neo-cons and other intolerant, nationalist warmongers throwing that word around carelessly, without any consideration for what Islam and fascism are really about. It doesn't make any sense. It's like, who ya calling fascist, wh***y.

The thing that's great about Islam is that it absolutely terrifies the hell out of small minded, privileged Westerners.



I think the reason for the coining of the term islamofascist has to do with the legacy of the vicious i Haj Amin El Husseini, the grand mufti of Jerusalem during the 30s and 40s. He ethusiastically supported Hitler and the Nazis and tried in Vain to forge an alliance between militant islamists and the 3rd reich.


A brown, large-nosed man with an odd religion (by German standards) tried to forge an alliance with the third Reich. Wow, that was a well-thought-out plan. Bravo!

I never said that Muslims couldn't be idiots.


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13 Mar 2009, 4:27 pm

allahu akbar, praise be jesus, and may the hammer of thor protect us all



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13 Mar 2009, 11:34 pm

Delirium wrote:
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I don't believe you. Something tells me the thread is a joke, no one in their right mind would just convert to Islam. :roll:


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Islam is beautiful.


As we all found out on 9/11/2001.

Allah hu'akbar!

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yes because the actions of a few are representative of over a billion people

amirite?


Lool, so true. ill admit i don't know much about Islam but it always confuses me when you hear ppl saying stuff like "oh their all against us and our way of life" i mean, theirs over 1.5million Muslims living in the UK if they all hated us and our way of life we'd definitely know about it by now :S



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14 Mar 2009, 12:10 am

to mostly americans:

you all realize that nobody, not even muslims, not EVEN the fundamentalist ones "hate you for your freedom" right?

its simply not possible. im not gonna go into how lame it is, but... just know. ive told you now.
the reasons they hate you, are the same reasons europeans and latinamericans and africans hate you :D

(they dont even hate you, the people, but you, the government, missiles, you know... that and tyra banks. god how i hate her...)

i dunno you lot so well yet, so i dunno how much you guys allready know :]



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14 Mar 2009, 6:52 am

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cool missp. i want to be a muslim, but i live a very lucrative lifestyle. i rap for a living, and have lots of fancy cars and did i mention the whores? all of wich allah detests. but may god bless, and remember to tip


And when you die and go to Paradise you get 72 ho-s.

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29 Mar 2009, 12:23 pm

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11 Jun 2011, 1:54 am

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Islam is beautiful.

Congratulations MissPickwickian on finding Islam - Take it easy and take care



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11 Jun 2011, 2:31 am

Doesn't Islam strongly frown upon the practice of the dark arts of necromancy?

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11 Jun 2011, 2:57 am

^ That is a great pic.


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11 Jun 2011, 3:24 am

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^ That is a great pic.


I've been waiting to use it lol

I don't actually get bothered by thread necro