True face of the Tea Party
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I think maybe the anti-government party may be more at blame for making sure the government does not work
than the other.
You just won the thread.
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While I do lean Libertarian, especially regarding the role of the Federal Government, I am open to the idea of States finding solutions to their people's health concerns even if they create a socialized safety net. To me it's kind of a 10th Amendment issue.
I partly feel this way because we have so many different regions. What might work in Alaska might not have the same effectiveness in Texas or California.
Yes Romney tried his own approach with many mixed opinions on it, but at least it only affected Massachusetts instead of dragging the whole country into it. It seems strange that Obama didn't just try pushing socialism in Illinois first to show his ideas were viable on a small scale first.
Can anyone else see the writing on the wall?
Clever.
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Because of course that is how it works in the rest of the world.
Are Americans the only people too stupid to have efficient government.
I think maybe the anti-government party may be more at blame for making sure the government does not work
than the other.
No you see, the reason conservatives think universal healthcare will never work is this: All the bitter n****rs and brown folk will purposefully abuse the system in order to get back at the white man until the system goes bankrupt. Therefore universal healthcare can only work in those European and Scandinavian countries where everyone is white. And everyone knows all Canadians are white too because they play hockey, not basketball.
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Can anyone else see the writing on the wall?
Clever.
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Because of course that is how it works in the rest of the world.
Are Americans the only people too stupid to have efficient government.
I think maybe the anti-government party may be more at blame for making sure the government does not work
than the other.
No you see, the reason conservatives think universal healthcare will never work is this: All the bitter n****rs and brown folk will purposefully abuse the system in order to get back at the white man until the system goes bankrupt. Therefore universal healthcare can only work in those European and Scandinavian countries where everyone is white. And everyone knows all Canadians are white too because they play hockey, not basketball.
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That's probably more accurate than I care to believe
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Can anyone else see the writing on the wall?
Clever.
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Because of course that is how it works in the rest of the world.
Are Americans the only people too stupid to have efficient government.
I think maybe the anti-government party may be more at blame for making sure the government does not work
than the other.
No you see, the reason conservatives think universal healthcare will never work is this: All the bitter n****rs and brown folk will purposefully abuse the system in order to get back at the white man until the system goes bankrupt. Therefore universal healthcare can only work in those European and Scandinavian countries where everyone is white. And everyone knows all Canadians are white too because they play hockey, not basketball.
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It's amazing how ignorant many residents of the US are of the fact that many Aboriginal Canadians, particularly in the northern regions, enjoy Hockey.
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15.5% of the Province of Manitoba's population was Aboriginal in 2006, so I wonder what America's Country Club Conservatives think now.
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at least include his response
"No. I practiced medicine before we had Medicaid, in the early 1960s, when I got out of medical school. I practiced at Santa Rosa Hospital in San Antonio, and the churches took care of them. We never turned anybody away from the hospitals," said Paul to additional applause. "And we've given up on this whole concept that we might take care of ourselves and assume responsibility for ourselves. Our neighbors, our friends, our churches would do it. This whole idea, that's the reason the cost is so high. The cost is so high because they dump it on the government, it becomes a bureaucracy," he added.
Ron Paul's beliefs have pretty disasterous consequence:
Despite his record as a doctor, despite the millions of dollars he raised, and despite his faith in the free market to settle health care matters, Paul was unable to provide for the most basic of care of one of his top staffers. Why didn't Snyder have insurance? Unfortunately, Snyder had a pre-existing condition, which would have made coverage prohibitively expensive. Readers on this site might remember the fact that he was the one man in all of congress to protest the Genetic Information Non-Discrimination Act, which would have allowed companies to diagnose pre-existing genetic conditions at the genetic level, for which his supporters were more than happy to cheer him on for, arguing that they shouldn't have to pay for someone else's misfortune (which, ironically, is sort of the entire point of insurance in the first place). Well, congratulations, guy. The bad news is, your campaign manager couldn't buy insurance to cover his pre-existing defect. The good news is, your campaign member couldn't buy insurance to cover his pre-existing defect. Further, there's the fact that Kent Snyder was openly gay, which means that he couldn't get coverage via marriage. Ron Paul opposes gay marriage, and believes that recognizing gay marriage should be done at the state level.
In New Hampshire, when Ron Paul was asked to provide his stance on making health care affordable, Ron Paul attempted to avoid the subject by going off into one of his general rants on inflation, which in this case, wasn't even an accurate use of the term. In Ron Paul's world, the problem isn't the cost of health care, but inflation. His supporters keep insisting that hyperinflation is inevitable and that the U.S. dollar will be worthless in the next few years. Perhaps they believe that by then, paying off the $400,000 debt will be easy, since it will cost people $400,000 just to pay for groceries? Of course, that's only assuming that their economic predictions will come true. For some reason, I doubt it.
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"No. I practiced medicine before we had Medicaid, in the early 1960s, when I got out of medical school. I practiced at Santa Rosa Hospital in San Antonio, and the churches took care of them. We never turned anybody away from the hospitals," said Paul to additional applause. "And we've given up on this whole concept that we might take care of ourselves and assume responsibility for ourselves. Our neighbors, our friends, our churches would do it. This whole idea, that's the reason the cost is so high. The cost is so high because they dump it on the government, it becomes a bureaucracy," he added.
Too bad there aren't people like that in the Tea Party.
...Because as you can see in your quote above, the tea party folk think society should let people who can't pay for healthcare die...
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"No. I practiced medicine before we had Medicaid, in the early 1960s, when I got out of medical school. I practiced at Santa Rosa Hospital in San Antonio, and the churches took care of them. We never turned anybody away from the hospitals," said Paul to additional applause. "And we've given up on this whole concept that we might take care of ourselves and assume responsibility for ourselves. Our neighbors, our friends, our churches would do it. This whole idea, that's the reason the cost is so high. The cost is so high because they dump it on the government, it becomes a bureaucracy," he added.
And I didn't think there was a worse answer than "let him die".
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Too bad there aren't people like that in the Tea Party.
...Because as you can see in your quote above, the tea party folk think society should let people who can't pay for healthcare die...
Follower of the Ron Paul Cult of Personality: ""Let them die is such an awful, awful word. I perfer 'let them visit or be visited by a charity hospital and give them the FREEDOM to crawl several miles to San Antino to a missionary hospital after being ran over by a car..... RON PAUL REVOLUTION, 2012!! ! He keeps his promises and never compromises principle - stuffing earmarks on a budget bill you vote down so your district is awash in pork barrellel spending IS A-OKAY, Though ... RON PAUL REVOLUTION, 2012!! !"
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Can anyone else see the writing on the wall?
As a matter of fact, it's a total myth that the US mail service is inefficient. The lady who ran the shipping and handling department in one company I used to work for had told me and some other guys there that the Post Office was by far the fastest and most reliable delivery service - far faster and more reliable than UPS or the others.
And does anyone really have anything bad to say against Medicare and Medicaid, which would be the basis of a national healthcare system?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
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Too bad there aren't people like that in the Tea Party.
...Because as you can see in your quote above, the tea party folk think society should let people who can't pay for healthcare die...
Follower of the Ron Paul Cult of Personality: ""Let them die is such an awful, awful word. I perfer 'let them visit or be visited by a charity hospital and give them the FREEDOM to crawl several miles to San Antino to a missionary hospital after being ran over by a car..... RON PAUL REVOLUTION, 2012!! ! He keeps his promises and never compromises principle - stuffing earmarks on a budget bill you vote down so your district is awash in pork barrellel spending IS A-OKAY, Though ... RON PAUL REVOLUTION, 2012!! !"
How sweet of you MP. If I cared enough, I'd learn more about your recently deceased hero to mock him(repeating it over and over again of course despite mischaracterizations being proven wrong) but I don't and I'm too nice of a guy to do that anyways.
"No. I practiced medicine before we had Medicaid, in the early 1960s, when I got out of medical school. I practiced at Santa Rosa Hospital in San Antonio, and the churches took care of them. We never turned anybody away from the hospitals," said Paul to additional applause. "And we've given up on this whole concept that we might take care of ourselves and assume responsibility for ourselves. Our neighbors, our friends, our churches would do it. This whole idea, that's the reason the cost is so high. The cost is so high because they dump it on the government, it becomes a bureaucracy," he added.
And that's just it. Its all part of the larger Theo-fascist agenda. Destroy the equal opportunity based secular social safety nets to create more desperate and destitute pray, pun intended, for religion to feed off of. Any non-secular "charity" will hardly be held to any standards regarding discrimination against those who don't share their particular holy fantasies.
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