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18 Aug 2011, 1:31 am

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Why is it so commonplace and not uncalled to attribute trolling to anonymity?

That annoys me. For starters, it allows guys like Google to become Draconian and threaten privacy on the web under the excuse that it will stop harassing. That is ridiculous when you think about it. First of all, there are plenty of people in the internet that use their real names to post bigoted, harassing bullying stuff. Second, anonymity is a very important tool that will protect our individual freedom and is akin to guns in that regard.


Anonymity plays only a partial role in this matter, it is more of a contributing factor to some who would be too shy to attach their names to their garbage but like you described it is not a necessary factor. However, the eternal creation of puppets to harass under a cloak of anonymity is still cowardly. Those who would be willing to attach their own names to their garbage, although they would be stupid, would also be bold as opposed to cowardly.



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18 Aug 2011, 11:54 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Vexcalibur wrote:
Why is it so commonplace and not uncalled to attribute trolling to anonymity?

That annoys me. For starters, it allows guys like Google to become Draconian and threaten privacy on the web under the excuse that it will stop harassing. That is ridiculous when you think about it. First of all, there are plenty of people in the internet that use their real names to post bigoted, harassing bullying stuff. Second, anonymity is a very important tool that will protect our individual freedom and is akin to guns in that regard.


Anonymity plays only a partial role in this matter, it is more of a contributing factor to some who would be too shy to attach their names to their garbage but like you described it is not a necessary factor. However, the eternal creation of puppets to harass under a cloak of anonymity is still cowardly. Those who would be willing to attach their own names to their garbage, although they would be stupid, would also be bold as opposed to cowardly.


It seems some people think anonymity gives them power. It doesn't matter how much you ridicule them for being cowardly, if they can upset you, in their mind they win.



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18 Aug 2011, 12:07 pm

marshall wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Vexcalibur wrote:
Why is it so commonplace and not uncalled to attribute trolling to anonymity?

That annoys me. For starters, it allows guys like Google to become Draconian and threaten privacy on the web under the excuse that it will stop harassing. That is ridiculous when you think about it. First of all, there are plenty of people in the internet that use their real names to post bigoted, harassing bullying stuff. Second, anonymity is a very important tool that will protect our individual freedom and is akin to guns in that regard.


Anonymity plays only a partial role in this matter, it is more of a contributing factor to some who would be too shy to attach their names to their garbage but like you described it is not a necessary factor. However, the eternal creation of puppets to harass under a cloak of anonymity is still cowardly. Those who would be willing to attach their own names to their garbage, although they would be stupid, would also be bold as opposed to cowardly.


It seems some people think anonymity gives them power. It doesn't matter how much you ridicule them for being cowardly, if they can upset you, in their mind they win.


Perhaps it is just that they feel like they have control when they evoke emotions.



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18 Aug 2011, 10:46 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If you think about it, those who hide behind thousands of miles of wire and in a cloak of anonymity while scoffing and mocking others are about as cowardly as they get.

I think you may be putting flamers in the same category as trolls, but I get your point, The "bullies" label seems more related to the former.



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19 Aug 2011, 6:24 am

blunnet wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If you think about it, those who hide behind thousands of miles of wire and in a cloak of anonymity while scoffing and mocking others are about as cowardly as they get.

I think you may be putting flamers in the same category as trolls, but I get your point, The "bullies" label seems more related to the former.


There are many Venn diagram intersections between the various categories of internet harassers.



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19 Aug 2011, 1:14 pm

There's a difference between trolling and just being annoying - trolling is causing somebody to make a fool of themself in front of others by posting subtle logical fallacies under the guise of seriousness - it can actually be amusing at times. Being annoying is an entirely different ballgame.



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19 Aug 2011, 1:52 pm

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There's a difference between trolling and just being annoying - trolling is causing somebody to make a fool of themself in front of others by posting subtle logical fallacies under the guise of seriousness - it can actually be amusing at times. Being annoying is an entirely different ballgame.


Welcome yet another newbie. BTW, anyone can be annoying to anyone regardless of whether they try to be or not and trolling is not so specific as all that.



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23 Aug 2011, 8:37 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If you think about it, those who hide in the closet and never come out are very very cowardly.



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23 Aug 2011, 8:49 am

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23 Aug 2011, 8:53 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Shantih wrote:
There's a difference between trolling and just being annoying - trolling is causing somebody to make a fool of themself in front of others by posting subtle logical fallacies under the guise of seriousness - it can actually be amusing at times. Being annoying is an entirely different ballgame.


Welcome yet another newbie. BTW, anyone can be annoying to anyone regardless of whether they try to be or not and trolling is not so specific as all that.


Every new member is suspect until he or she has passed a rigorous investigation by our resident sleuth. Welcome anyway :)



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23 Aug 2011, 10:16 am

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23 Aug 2011, 12:38 pm

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wcoltd wrote:
THIS TOPIC IS FAKE AND GAY
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HOW DARE YOU?! !! YOUR MOM IS FAKER AND GAYER!



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24 Aug 2011, 3:20 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If you think about it, those who hide behind thousands of miles of wire and in a cloak of anonymity while scoffing and mocking others are about as cowardly as they get.



I think you may have made a good point there. People who troll online are usually people who are unhappy in real life and have no life. They are bored and unemployed. This comes from someone who had a few online friends who trolled on forums and they were all that. What a pattern I saw. One of them has admitted he wouldn't do any of this stuff in real life like he once asked me "would you call someone a fat b***h to their face? I would punch someone if they said that to me." That is why people say mean and hurtful things behind the screen.

I also think people who go online and say things to people they wouldn't say to anyone in real life are cowards. That goes for people who use the internet to vent and vent about things they aren't willing to vent about in real life.

But lot of my trolls friends I had I am no longer friends with because they all turned against me and started trolling me again or just started trolling me. Now I judge trolls again. I will now assume they will just turn against me if I ever happen to piss them off or say something they don't like. That is the pattern I noticed with my so called "friends."



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19 Sep 2011, 6:39 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If you think about it, those who hide behind thousands of miles of wire and in a cloak of anonymity while scoffing and mocking others are about as cowardly as they get.


I vote for those that kill people while hiding behind thousands of miles of wire and in a cloak of anonymity while scoffing and mocking others to be about as cowardly as it gets. As in drone operators. Talking a load of noise over the tubes doesn't really amount to anything, let alone cowardice. Just my two cents.

Wonder if this will earn me troll stripes... :roll:


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19 Sep 2011, 9:44 am

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Wonder if this will earn me troll stripes... :roll:


That is what you are going for, isn't it?


Hmm, remote control killing machines. Sounds like a good idea! :twisted:

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19 Sep 2011, 8:23 pm

laffhaqq wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If you think about it, those who hide behind thousands of miles of wire and in a cloak of anonymity while scoffing and mocking others are about as cowardly as they get.


I vote for those that kill people while hiding behind thousands of miles of wire and in a cloak of anonymity while scoffing and mocking others to be about as cowardly as it gets. As in drone operators. Talking a load of noise over the tubes doesn't really amount to anything, let alone cowardice. Just my two cents.

Wonder if this will earn me troll stripes... :roll:


So how do you kill people on a website by mocking and or scoffing them?

Drones are the face of modern warefare just like at one time spears and arrows were.
It's called progress.....