Alex Jones - what do people think of him esp. Americans ?

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03 Aug 2011, 2:25 am

Alex Jones of infowars.com: http://www.infowars.com/lyndon-larouche ... ling-vote/ - Because there is a war for your mind as well as your wallet ! :)

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I don't know what to make of this guy he's seems to have evolved off a similar branch of the tree as your average "shock jock" but despite that he does'nt come across to me as being just a loudmouth (although he is one) only interested in being controversial for controversy's sake and losing sight of the fact that being controversial isn't an absolute must unless it's the only way to get your point across and you have the substance to back it up.

He seems to have the substance of a decent intellect to back up what it is he's trying to achieve and he believes in it which is an admirable thing because I get the idea the man believes passionately that he is fighting to defend his country and defend the American people's civil liberties for the better. All things considered the CIA and the FBI and talking out publicly against the government in particular he has guts !

I never had a clue who he was until a few days ago when I was looking for some talk radio stations to listen to as I like talk radio but here in the UK there is a dearth of quality talk radio, most of the stations who claim the name tend to talk about music, fashion and all sorts of other pop culture orientated stuff but I like controversial talk radio that cuts it up about politics and real meaty issues you can get your teeth into. Alex Jones was like finding a needle in a haystack.

I enjoyed listening to him he has the right bombastic tone and the right level of authority and gravel in his voice to make me sit up and take notice. But I'm not sure about him completely so I'm asking people who know of him what do people think of him is he taken seriously in America or viewed as some well meaning but misguided crackpot ?

He makes a lot of good points and he's got the polished image of a newsreader and the kudos of having a website named after him and all the technology and researchers that goes into that helping him to back his crusading approach up.

It's not hard to tell though that he really is no big fan of Obama I'm becoming more and more aware that there is a lot of Obama phobia across the Atlantic I never realised the half of it until I found his show and began listening to it. Obama is slowly and surely being demonised by forces that want to see him fail and fail stupendously as the first non white American president.

Sitting over here I'd heard the odd few comments against Obama but mainly not knowing much about it I put it down to just being racist grumblings or sour grapes from not very sophisticated types who feel aggrieved that he actually became president. I mostly know about British politics I tend to concentrate too much on the politics of my own country and only pick up snippets about other countries politics when it's related to that.

Now though I've had an eye opener this guy is talking about Obama becoming some kind of dictator and the world plunging into some kind of economic abyss which is not a million miles away from the truth and could well happen the way things have been going since 2008 it's actually quite scary stuff if you sit down and think about it. The implications are enormous wether or not they happen is still speculation though.

It's a thing we should all be hoping and praying does not happen in the way this Alex Jones guy talks about it going down. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt though because he was making some good points and although he's obviously biased towards gun ownership a thing no Brit can fathom as we would get 10 years in jail for even trying to buy a weapon I was seeing that as no reason to not listen to his point of view.

Then on came Lyndon La Rouche via a video link - who is this guy I must be one of these people Alex Jones says there's no hope for Lyndon La Rouche is a complete nobody in the political world as far as I'm concerned I never even heard of the name La Rouche and Lyndon used together that many times let alone the man himself ?

It was then I began thinking "crackpot" this guy upset me with some of the slurs he made but made me wary as well as I reckon he's a dangerous bugger. He's not stupid but there's nothing more dangerous than an educated idiot I reckon.

He claims that Obama is trying to set himself up as a dictator in the same way Hitler did he's making it out as a Hitler style coup of the White House :? This super congress idea they are talking about forming ? I agree I don't think it's a good way to be going to coral democratic power into the hands of an few elected senators but unelected for the purposes of this "Super Congress" idea. Many Americans may think this is none of my business but what you have to understand is everything that happens in your congress has noticeable ripples of influence across the globe so people do take an interest and it concerns me that idea and just where will it lead us all politically ?

So far so disturbing but Hitler took power for wholly different reasons and very sinister one's they were you can hardly compare Obama to Hitler but I was willing to put up with his train of thought even though it was insulting to me. He then goes on to say though with a straight face that Britain made Hitler ? We the Uk we made flipping Hitler we put Hitler into power and made him Chancellor of Germany nothing to do with France or anybody else Britain and it's evil Empire caused Hitler - what a flipping mad man thing to say !

A complete insult to every British person on the entire planet but then his name is La Rouche so he's obvioulsly off the French and the French are apt to say all sorts of complete biased resentment regarding the British and the sun only sets over Paris the centre of the entire Universe. It beggars belief :roll:

That wasn't the best of it though more was to come and no doubt is to come I reckon this La Rouche won't stop until everybody hears him call us all stupid and be warned about the errors of our ways. He then goes on to claim that Britain put Obama into the White House ??? :o

I could see the connection between the way France and Britian especially took umbridge with the Germans after the treaty was signed First World War but the way I was taught France especially turned the thumbscrews and kept Germany down and made Germany pay and pay and pay for the war and the great insult of invading her sovereign soil until the Germans could take no more and Hitler was the result. I mean if you keep hitting somebody for something they done there's going to come a point your going to find yourself getting a good smack in the chops back for labouring the point too far !

This was ludicrous in the extreme though. I mean how could Britan possibly tell over 300 million people living in 50 states how they are going to be ruled. How can Britain one single country in decline and with only about 60 million people possibly call the shots and put Obama into power it's not only ludicrous it's insane the guy is stark raving mad. :lol:

So I mean what the hell ? Who is this guy Alex Jones how is he viewed in America and do people really believe in the stuff that La Douchebag guy says because it's pretty crazy the stuff he's claiming about Britains supposed Kingmaking of Obama in the White House Lol 8O



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03 Aug 2011, 3:02 am

I don't know I listen to him as I am going to sleep lol, there is some things he says that can make him a nutjob.


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03 Aug 2011, 3:16 am

^ what do you think of the idea of a super congress though when you hand over that much power how you going to get it back will they want to give it back, power corrupts after all - sheesh America may just be on the brink of a dictatorship on paper at least that's the only sensible point La Rouche actually makes !

He talks about people fighting and dying on the streets he may well be right because that's what's happenning in Syria nd Egypt and Libya can we afford to relax thinking we are ok just because we are used to being ok in the main ?



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03 Aug 2011, 6:20 am

I like Alex Jones. He's one of the only alternative mainstream broadcasters out there that'll touch on subjects that the monopolized old news media won't. If people actually listen to Alex, think, and do their own research about what he says and read the sources .. then it becomes evident he's legit.



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03 Aug 2011, 7:10 am

He's a man of passion.

I find most people love to deride him as a nut case, but he is capable of sitting down and rationally discussing any number of topics. His flaw, in my opinion, is that he's easily excitable and then he's shouting and screaming and looking like a nutcase.

He started as a mainstream journalist. He wondered about all those "conspiracy nuts" out there and decided, as a journalist, to investigate what they were claiming....and he found more than enough evidence to support what they were claiming. He felt a moral obligation to expose the truth...a journalist with the conviction to follow his idealistic view of his profession.

I got all of this from just watching a video of an interview he did with some French journalists about his work.

He's been fired from his job. He's lost his network sponsorship. He never gave up. He found another network (or two) willing to air his show that he produces himself. I doubt he has any vast savings or lives a lavish lifestyle from what money his show makes from selling stuff (which they do to have the money to travel, do research, etc.).

I've learned, over the years, to think twice about anyone publicly denounced by "establishment" media sources. If Alex Jones was popular among his peers, I'd doubt most anything he said. That he's marginalized, lampooned, derided, etc. tells me people don't want him talking. That says something.

He doesn't go out and say things he can't back with documentation. He has the documents that support everything he publishes, every video he produces. It's amazing how people will insist he's wrong when he's citing official documents and articled published in accepted mainstream media outlets. He's even called several terrorist attacks as "false flag" operations purely by profiling the repeated pattern of government officials leading up to each incident, and he calls them about 24-72 hours in advance because he knows the signs when he sees them developing. Certainly, days to months later, the evidence starts appearing that calls the official account of events into question.

What do Americans think of him? Uncertain. Certainly, global awareness about the activities of the Bilderburg Group can be credited largely to his work on the matter. Certainly there is a growing group of Americans who realize that something has gone horribly wrong in our nation and that it isn't just by chance things are going the way they are going. What percentage think he's right or like him? I don't know.

The biggest service Alex Jones does is that he commits his time and resources to research all the stuff he educates his listeners on. If you understand how many things go on in politics, that which would offend is frequently hidden in plain sight by just by flooding the media with distractions. Early on, some of his proof came by finding sources or trying to nab "declassified" documents before the government decided to reclassify them. He said back then that when the day comes that the elitists start openly discussing their plans in the media, it's gotten real bad. Now, the elitists are discussing their plans in the media. Society has become sufficiently acclimated/conditioned that they think there is no danger to them...or that the common person is not capable of stopping them.

If you tried to do all that research for yourself, you'd not have time to do anything else.



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03 Aug 2011, 8:11 am

Raymond_Fawkes wrote:
I like Alex Jones. He's one of the only alternative mainstream broadcasters out there that'll touch on subjects that the monopolized old news media won't. If people actually listen to Alex, think, and do their own research about what he says and read the sources .. then it becomes evident he's legit.


True, he does talk about some of the more important topics that the big media companies won't. Unfortunately, he mixes it all up with his conspiracy theories that it detracts from focusing on the real issue at hand. Scapegoating real problems onto imaginary enemies or the wrong people is counterproductive to finding a solution.



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03 Aug 2011, 8:27 am

tl;dr, but I did notice this

zer0netgain wrote:
He started as a mainstream journalist.


He started on Austin Access Television. I used to watch his show back when he was still amusing, and before the internet made it easy to debunk his wild claims.


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03 Aug 2011, 9:19 am

jrjones9933 wrote:
tl;dr, but I did notice this

zer0netgain wrote:
He started as a mainstream journalist.


He started on Austin Access Television. I used to watch his show back when he was still amusing, and before the internet made it easy to debunk his wild claims.


I'm just wondering - What 'wild claims' are you referring to specifically ?



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03 Aug 2011, 10:27 am

I'm all for considering conspiracy theories as many tend to have some grain of truth to them. But the other day I heard him doing an interview with someone and they were discussing different doomsday situations when his guest went on to explain how lizard people from outer space are running the secret world government.

Yea, it was the guest and not Alex. But that's when I decided it was time to find something better to listen to.



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03 Aug 2011, 3:04 pm

alex jones calls himself a christian, but blasphmey's God's name to when ever he sees fit. that doesn't make sense right?

also he's all for bad news
he's doesn't offer anything new, that the mainstream media already presents.
inside i think he knows he's going down with the ship, (where long term or not) cause the word definition of conspiracy theory isn't changing with the american people.

1776 is his slogan he'll say over and over...
and we go, what?



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03 Aug 2011, 4:55 pm

parrow wrote:
I'm all for considering conspiracy theories as many tend to have some grain of truth to them. But the other day I heard him doing an interview with someone and they were discussing different doomsday situations when his guest went on to explain how lizard people from outer space are running the secret world government.

Yea, it was the guest and not Alex. But that's when I decided it was time to find something better to listen to.


Was the guest a guy named David Icke? He's been credited with the evil space lizard doppelganger theory. Fun fact about the theory--it's the same theory people used to persecute Jews in medieval times, with space lizards filling in the role of the Jews. This theory is so crazy that (supposedly) even Jones doesn't believe it.



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03 Aug 2011, 5:58 pm

I love Alex. While I don't agree with him about his patriotic stuff I love how he is getting the word out about the truth of how the world is ran.



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05 Aug 2011, 12:04 pm

I find it suspicious that his backer is a Saudi billionaire that was an arms dealer in the 80's that was involved in the Iran-Contra affair. However, he does give a lot of good information.



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05 Aug 2011, 1:06 pm

Is it true that he's a CIA agent?



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10 Aug 2011, 8:56 pm

Raymond_Fawkes wrote:
I like Alex Jones. He's one of the only alternative mainstream broadcasters out there that'll touch on subjects that the monopolized old news media won't. If people actually listen to Alex, think, and do their own research about what he says and read the sources .. then it becomes evident he's legit.


yeah he's not stupid and what La Rouche said about people dying on the streets of America well it's happening right now in Britain people are riotoing and people are dying because of it - Armageddon here we come !



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19 Sep 2011, 6:49 am

Two words: agent provocateur.

Good for a laugh though, lol. Good ol' Alex 'anyone but Mossad did 9/11' Jones!

Mike Rivero could eat this clown for breakfast.


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