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17 Nov 2011, 5:52 pm

Gary Johnson is one of the republican candidates running currently. He was New Mexico's governor for 8 years and New Mexico thrived under him. He is a fiscal conservative and a social liberal. His views seem even more libertarian than Ron Paul's IMO and he appears to be a total genius (again, IMO). However, not only has he not been invited to participate in most of the debates, he isn't even usually listed in the polls! The media is almost entirely ignoring him. It's too bad as I feel he could turn our nation around. Is anyone else a fan of his?


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17 Nov 2011, 6:07 pm

It seems the contenders with the most intellect and gravitas are the ones who are not getting a voice. I'm beginning to think our electoral process is determined by ratings.


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17 Nov 2011, 6:11 pm

Aimless wrote:
It seems the contenders with the most intellect and gravitas are the ones who are not getting a voice. I'm beginning to think our electoral process is determined by ratings.


I think you most definitely have a point there.


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17 Nov 2011, 6:17 pm

I wouldn't say he's more libertarian than Ron Paul. Being pro-abortion is really the only thing that could be considered "more libertarian" which has more to do with when you think life begins but I believe even Gary thinks it should be a state issue rather than a federal one. He's expressed support for "humanitarian wars" and the horrible FairTax. Hopefully that's just him trying to pander for support but certainly not something I want to hear.

Gary is a good man tho and I wish would run for senate in New Mexico where he'd be the favorite. If Ron Paul doesn't win the GOP nomination tho and Gary runs as the Libertarian candidate, as he is being rumored to be considering, I would probably vote for him.

It is pretty much a joke that he hasn't been invited to most of the debates when they invite guys like Huntsman and Santorum who also poll >1%. Fox News seemingly invited Gary that one time just to try to get him to attack Ron Paul but he didn't take that bait.



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17 Nov 2011, 6:24 pm

Jacoby wrote:
I wouldn't say he's more libertarian than Ron Paul. Being pro-abortion is really the only thing that could be considered "more libertarian" which has more to do with when you think life begins but I believe even Gary thinks it should be a state issue rather than a federal one. He's expressed support for "humanitarian wars" and the horrible FairTax. Hopefully that's just him trying to pander for support but certainly not something I want to hear.

Gary is a good man tho and I wish would run for senate in New Mexico where he'd be the favorite. If Ron Paul doesn't win the GOP nomination tho and Gary runs as the Libertarian candidate, as he is being rumored to be considering, I would probably vote for him.

It is pretty much a joke that he hasn't been invited to most of the debates when they invite guys like Huntsman and Santorum who also poll >1%. Fox News seemingly invited Gary that one time just to try to get him to attack Ron Paul but he didn't take that bait.


I'm not necessarily a fan of fair tax either. I believe that everyone of every class should be taxed the same percentage of their income, say 15% or 20% (I think that is flat tax). But I still agree with Johnson and Paul more than the other candidates. The last thing we need is one more president who is a neocon.


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17 Nov 2011, 6:51 pm

The only news network Ive ever observed mention him is Russia Today.

He does have some interesting ideas.



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17 Nov 2011, 7:08 pm

history_of_psychiatry wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
I wouldn't say he's more libertarian than Ron Paul. Being pro-abortion is really the only thing that could be considered "more libertarian" which has more to do with when you think life begins but I believe even Gary thinks it should be a state issue rather than a federal one. He's expressed support for "humanitarian wars" and the horrible FairTax. Hopefully that's just him trying to pander for support but certainly not something I want to hear.

Gary is a good man tho and I wish would run for senate in New Mexico where he'd be the favorite. If Ron Paul doesn't win the GOP nomination tho and Gary runs as the Libertarian candidate, as he is being rumored to be considering, I would probably vote for him.

It is pretty much a joke that he hasn't been invited to most of the debates when they invite guys like Huntsman and Santorum who also poll >1%. Fox News seemingly invited Gary that one time just to try to get him to attack Ron Paul but he didn't take that bait.


I'm not necessarily a fan of fair tax either. I believe that everyone of every class should be taxed the same percentage of their income, say 15% or 20% (I think that is flat tax). But I still agree with Johnson and Paul more than the other candidates. The last thing we need is one more president who is a neocon.


Yea, FairTax is a specific plan that involves a national sales tax with a monthly "prebate" check from the government to offset the regression nature of the tax. The prebates would essentially be welfare and would mean a huge increase in the size of government and be a mega-huge new entitlement. We'd be better off just with the progressive income tax that we have now than going down that road imo. Flat tax is usually just a flat income tax such as the 20% one Rick Perry is pushing AFAIK.



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17 Nov 2011, 9:35 pm

inb4garyjohnson+ronpaularef***ing insane

Seriously. I disagree with each of them on a number of issues, but I'm sick of people who disqualify other people from the "sane" column solely because of their political beliefs.