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02 Jan 2012, 1:02 am

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According to the list, researchers at Notre Dame University invented a paint that acts as a superconductor. Notre Dame is a Catholic school.

So ... did those researchers make their discovery by praying or by the judicious application of the scientific method?

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Oh, and your list failed to mention the genetically modified super flu that many consider to be so dangerous there is debate as to whether or not the researchers should reveal how it was created. Thanks a lot, science.

This is actually good news. Now that we know how the H5N1 virus can mutate, we can develop appropriate vaccines before it does so all on its own. It's called "Pre-Emptive Research", and is a mainstay of medical science. Otherwise, the press is blowing all out of proportion.

Besides, how does this qualify as an accomplishment by the "Body of Religion"?



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02 Jan 2012, 1:03 am

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H5N1 virus can mutate


Honestly, the amount of times the Bee Bee Cee kept saying "the H5N1 virus" like a bloody mantra... sometimes I wanted to rip the television set out.



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02 Jan 2012, 1:05 am

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*I'm pretty sure no libertarians or objectivists helped.
And since when were libertarians against voluntarily helping others?


I never said they were against it, but it's been my experience that they rarely engage in it.

I guess that's one reason I'm so hard on libertarians. When they talk about dismantling the social safety net, they claim that charity will fill the void. But, I never see any of them doing charity... And most of the ones I talk to around here tend toward social Darwinism.

I suppose they might help a poor person, if they deemed them worthy of help...

Politically, most of the people I've met volunteering are left leaning or agnostic/apolitical with a fair few moderate Republicans (the kind who might gladly vote for John McCain)...


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02 Jan 2012, 1:16 am

Tequila wrote:
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H5N1 virus can mutate
Honestly, the amount of times the Bee Bee Cee kept saying "the H5N1 virus" like a bloody mantra... sometimes I wanted to rip the television set out.

Misinformation breeds anxiety. Anxiety breeds interest. Interest brings revenue ... Is Aunty Beeb strapped for cash these days?



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02 Jan 2012, 1:31 am

GoonSquad wrote:
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*I'm pretty sure no libertarians or objectivists helped.
And since when were libertarians against voluntarily helping others?


I never said they were against it, but it's been my experience that they rarely engage in it.

I guess that's one reason I'm so hard on libertarians. When they talk about dismantling the social safety net, they claim that charity will fill the void. But, I never see any of them doing charity... And most of the ones I talk to around here tend toward social Darwinism.

I suppose they might help a poor person, if they deemed them worthy of help...

Politically, most of the people I've met volunteering are left leaning or agnostic/apolitical with a fair few moderate Republicans (the kind who might gladly vote for John McCain)...


http://news.yahoo.com/ron-paul-supporte ... 14402.html

honestly there people of all ideologies that participate in charity and don't. It comes down to the individual.

and the h5n1 thing is pretty scary since I'm so close. The one in the US was made at UW-Madison.



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02 Jan 2012, 2:07 am

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GoonSquad wrote:
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*I'm pretty sure no libertarians or objectivists helped.
And since when were libertarians against voluntarily helping others?


I never said they were against it, but it's been my experience that they rarely engage in it.

I guess that's one reason I'm so hard on libertarians. When they talk about dismantling the social safety net, they claim that charity will fill the void. But, I never see any of them doing charity... And most of the ones I talk to around here tend toward social Darwinism.

I suppose they might help a poor person, if they deemed them worthy of help...

Politically, most of the people I've met volunteering are left leaning or agnostic/apolitical with a fair few moderate Republicans (the kind who might gladly vote for John McCain)...


http://news.yahoo.com/ron-paul-supporte ... 14402.html

honestly there people of all ideologies that participate in charity and don't. It comes down to the individual.

and the h5n1 thing is pretty scary since I'm so close. The one in the US was made at UW-Madison.


Wow, that's awesome. :thumright:



I hope they keep it up after Dr. Paul is defeated. :P


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02 Jan 2012, 2:22 am

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jo fnord religion and science aren't two competing things its not like the believe in a god excludes you from believing scientific findings vice versa believing that we can know things scientifecaly doesn't exclude you from believing we can not know some things scientificaly
Absolutely... Religion also has an advantage in that its douchebag zealots tend to eliminate themselves in explosions while atheism's douchebags just go on and on and on... :roll:

... and the "douchebags" of science keep making new discoveries and advancing our understanding of reality.


You might want to look up the word douchebag... :P

On topic-- I have personally witnessed the "non-douchebags" of religion help coordinate efforts to feed, shelter and educate the less fortunate in my local community. They did it with the help of some "non-douchebag" atheists, some sciency types, some dirty hippies and other random folk.* I think they should all get at least partial credit.

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Religious nut Harold Camping's repeated end of the world predictions created entrepreneurial opportunities for those in the "after-the-rapture" pet care industry...


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*I'm pretty sure no libertarians or objectivists helped.


Well, as the rapture believing crowd isn't big on Lutherans and other Mainline Protestants being carried off in the rapture (since we don't believe in such a thing), I would imagine that my wife, daughter, and I will probably be left here to care for our own cats.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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02 Jan 2012, 3:12 am

Can't list it all. But way to much damage. I long for a world where religion doesn't exist. To many fools following nonsense. Open your eyes to the magic of reality religious fools. :sunny:



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02 Jan 2012, 3:22 am

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Atheism in of itself has done diddly squat
It's becoming the worship of irreligion


Perhaps both religion and irreligion are irrelevant.

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02 Jan 2012, 1:41 pm

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mad_monkey wrote:
Atheism in of itself has done diddly squat
It's becoming the worship of irreligion
Perhaps both religion and irreligion are irrelevant. ruveyn

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It is what one accomplishes - not what one merely believes - that makes the final difference in one's life.



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02 Jan 2012, 1:58 pm

The religious right constantly talks about nuking Iran.



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02 Jan 2012, 2:27 pm

I'm still hoping for a list of positive accomplishments made by the "Body of Religion" during 2011. Why has no one posted one? Surely, there must be dozens of miraculous mass healings happening every day (for example), even if no one notices.



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02 Jan 2012, 3:22 pm

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I'm still hoping for a list of positive accomplishments made by the "Body of Religion" during 2011. Why has no one posted one? Surely, there must be dozens of miraculous mass healings happening every day (for example), even if no one notices.


Whenever someone in my church has to go for what ever reason to the doctor or hospital, our congregation prays for him or her. When medical science can help that person, we like to think that God had had a hand in it. Maybe there might be miraculous healings, though they're extremely rare, and I think faith healings are nothing but a racket, done by charlatans and flimflam men (and women) who use religion as a means to soak the gullible.

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03 Jan 2012, 11:14 pm

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I'm still hoping for a list of positive accomplishments made by the "Body of Religion" during 2011. Why has no one posted one? Surely, there must be dozens of miraculous mass healings happening every day (for example), even if no one notices.


It's impossible to list the good when it's all bad.



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04 Jan 2012, 1:01 am

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Would someone please post a list of Religious Achievements of 2011 to provide balance to the list of Scientific Achievements of 2011?


I'm not exactly sure what you were looking for. I can't speak for all religions except the one that I belong to. Here are the achievements for Jehovah's Witnesses:

• 7,508,050 million active Jehovah Witnesses who go out try to spread the good news about God's kingdom. This number does not include inactive or former Witnesses. (per 2010)
• 107,210 congregations worldwide. (per 2010)
• This kingdom preaching work now covers 236 countries, and probably quite a few where the work is currently underground.
• 8,058,359 million people are studying the bible with Jehovah's Witnesses. That's 1.07 bible study per Witness. (per 2010)
• 18,706,895 million people attended the memorial of Jesus death in 2010.
• 1,604,764,248 billion hours were spent in the ministry in 2010 alone. (1.6 BILLION)
• There are 3 Hmong language congregations in the entire world; all of them in the United States and two in California. :)
• The Watchtower Announcing Jehovah's Kingdom (Public Edition) is the most widely circulated magazine in the world, with an average print run of over 42,000,000 copies per month.
• The Watchtower is one of the longest running, continuously published religious magazines in the world. First printing released on July 1, 1879.
The fastest growing denomination in 2011 in the United States
• The entire organization has been completely financed by voluntary donations since 1990. (I'm not one hundred percent sure about the date, but I do remember it being somewhere between the late 80's and early 90's)

All credit goes to Jehovah for making this possible. (Revelation 4:11) There's no way this work would continue, much less grow, (Isaiah 60:22) under the level of apathy in the world today towards religion (Matthew 24:12; 2 Timothy 3:5) without his holy spirit (John 14:16,17,26) and the direction of our King, Christ Jesus. (Ephesians 5:23, 29; Colossians 1:18 )


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04 Jan 2012, 1:46 am

That's what I figured


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