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OK maybe "hate" was too strong a word, I take that back. You do come across as if you really have a problem with them in general though

The Catholic Church is a religious government that is how I view the Vatican I am the only one in my family that has narrow views of the Pope most of the Popes have been morally corrupted using a faith for political power.

Definitely. I can't stand the Pope. Personally I think the Catholic Church and Islam are the two most dangerous of all the main religions. My extended family are all Catholic.

Catholicism didn't cause the Crusades and the witchhunt,the Evilocracy caused it.

Let's talk about pretension.Unrestricteds usually could pretend to be Restricteds and infiltrate them while Restricteds are less likely to infiltrate Unrestricteds because they have some restrictions and they might dislike pretension.That's why they are less likely to pretend and Restricteds usually have less choices than Unrestricteds.

Unless God our LORD intervenes,the Unrestricteds usually defeat the Restricteds because God our LORD knows what a person is thinking and doing while ordinary people(everyone except Our Saviour Jesus Christ) don't know that.This lack of information makes pretension and hypocritical possible.

Then we could explain the witchhunt,Crusades and other things Atheist apologists blame on Christianity.All of these things never happen when the church is illegal and persecuted.At that time most people in the Church are actually followers of Our Saviour Jesus Christ .They are the sheep,not the goats and wolves who pretend to be sheep because you could get nothing if you do so.Only after Christians become the majority many wolves began to infiltrate the church.Since most real sheep(everyone except Our Saviour Jesus Christ ) usually couldn't identify who is a real sheep and who is a pseudo-sheep,wolves infiltrate the church and even become church leaders because unless God our LORD intervenes,pseudo-sheep usually have more chances to become church leaders than real sheep.Then Crusades,witchhunt and other evil things happen.Even some church leaders were found out to be pseudo-sheep.

Just take the pornography problem as an example.Now pornography is epidemic,even the church is not immune from this disease.Priests who are the sheep usually resign if they couldn't resist pornography while those who are pseudo-sheep don't resign if they couldn't resist or just don't resist pornography.God our LORD knows.The church don't know.Then the result is that the wolves take over the positions which were held by the sheep.

Unless God our LORD intervenes,even the church is not immune from Evilocracy.Then what about the politicians,traders and scholars?Evilocracy is pandemic because of the evil human nature.

You seem to be missing the bigger picture the crusades was more of a political motivated war the catholic church spread the christian faith by the sword much like how Islam did.

Well,let's unite together regardless of denomination.Islam and Atheism wants to devour us.

Radical Islam yes but atheism no atheist do not kill in the name of athiesm they have killed how ever for political motives. Like Stalin a atheist killed christians in Russia because they where a threat to his politcal power Mao and Pol Pot did the same. get rid of the religious is a way to achieve absoutle political power getting rid of atheists would hurt the feilds of science.

Christianity and science are not in conflict with each other.Atheist apologists play science against religion and play religion against science.Our Orthodox brothers in the Middle East are in danger.Assyrians and Copts are persecuted.

Thank you very much!It has started.The problem is about spread of Atheism and moral problems.

In the United States,an average non-religious person are 20% more likely to go to jail than an average Christian.

I'm an atheist, and while I don't have a problem with any Christian in particular, I often get offended by their stances on issues and I find they are usually very ill-informed when it comes to atheism vs. theism.



The OP does a good job of illustrating my point. How is the spread of Atheism a problem? That's kind of an insulting way to start a conversation. You also imply that atheism is the cause of moral problems, which again is insulting and has no basis in fact. I am a very moral person, though I developed those morals from a secular mindset.

And by the way, your stats are incorrect. According to the Federal Bureau of Prison, Catholics and Protestans make up over 74% of American prisons, while atheists only make up 0.2% (No, that is not a typo!)
http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm

So Christians, if you take anything away from this, don't put yourselves on a moral pedastel and demonize atheists. I know a lot of atheists can give you guys a hard time, and I apologize for that. But don't stoop to that level, and try to be informed in discussion.

I'm an atheist, and while I don't have a problem with any Christian in particular, I often get offended by their stances on issues and I find they are usually very ill-informed when it comes to atheism vs. theism.



The OP does a good job of illustrating my point. How is the spread of Atheism a problem? That's kind of an insulting way to start a conversation. You also imply that atheism is the cause of moral problems, which again is insulting and has no basis in fact. I am a very moral person, though I developed those morals from a secular mindset.

And by the way, your stats are incorrect. According to the Federal Bureau of Prison, Catholics and Protestans make up over 74% of American prisons, while atheists only make up 0.2% (No, that is not a typo!)
http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm

So Christians, if you take anything away from this, don't put yourselves on a moral pedastel and demonize atheists. I know a lot of atheists can give you guys a hard time, and I apologize for that. But don't stoop to that level, and try to be informed in discussion.

You should compare it with demographics.
Protestent 51.3%
Roman Catholic 23.9%
Other Christian 3.3%
(Christianity 78.5%)
Jewish 1.7%
Buddhist 0.7%
Muslim 0.6%
Hindu 0.4%
Other religions 1.2%
No religion 16.1%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Relig ... States.png
Then we have some interesting results:
Demographics in the US(a%) Demographics in the US prisons(b%) b/a

Christians 78.5% 76.6% 0.976

Non-religious 16.1% 19.5%(19.1%+0.4%) 1.21

Non-religious people are overrepresented in US prisons by more than 20%.

Catholics caused the crusades not Protestants.

Which are two seperate umberalla terms in Christanity.

Becasue of the crusades the Catholics ended up going to war with Protestants because the Protestants aka non Catholics refused to follow the Vatican and the Popes so called religious authority.

Jews are also welcome.
Let's gather and discuss.

Nowadays,due to widespread Atheism and secularization,the moral standards all over the world is falling very quickly and many social problems began to appear.Let's discuss these things.

Jews are also welcome.
Let's gather and discuss.

Nowadays,due to widespread Atheism and secularization,the moral standards all over the world is falling very quickly and many social problems began to appear.Let's discuss these things.

I think you're thinking of the Catholics going to war with the Orthodox, or the Byzantine Empire. As far as I know, there weren't really any wars between the Catholics and Protestants. But during the latter Crusades, the Pope did try to take Byzantine (Orthodox) lands and put them under Roman authority.

As far as the Crusades go, though, while not quite "turning the other cheek" they were taking the land back from the Muslims who first conquered it. While taking Jerusalem and stuff wasn't really the brightest of ideas in the grand scheme of things, if it weren't for the reconquest of Spain, Spain would be an Islamic state today.

I mean, yes, the Crusaders, they did lots of bad terrible stuff, but originally, like most bad things, started out with sort of a good point behind them.