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AlexandertheSolitary
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23 Feb 2007, 6:55 am

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Dont think of AS as a curse but a an intellectual gift from God.


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All, I have to say is. Wow! I totally felt this sentence. First, I just want to share some things with everyone. I used to be like some of you out there asking the "why" question when I was a kid. "Why me?" That kind of thing. And I used to go to church with my family every sunday, but it never did anything for me. I never felt any different than what I was doing in my every day life during the week. I tried because I wanted to know the answer to the why question. I wanted to know, what my parents were trying to put upon us children and for us to learn and grow spiritually. It never happened for me. For me, I always wanted hard evidence, because it was hard for me to think outside the box (it still is) and to see something that wasn't there.

Anyways, now I go to school in the southern US, where that region is part of the "Bible Belt" and at first, i didn't know if i wanted to get back into the religious/spiritual part of my life again after not being a part of it for so long. Well, a friend of mine talked me into going to one of the campus ministries with her, and a year later, I'm still there and have added other campus ministries to my activites as well.

Now, another thing you have to understand is that I come from the midwest and grew up in the traditional church and coming down here, I have kind of gone out of my shell and have been to very contemporary services down here and I continue going to them. It has been a totally new experience for me. I guess you could say that I've been sort of a born again Christian.

Because of this experience, I've come to grow as a person and have to come to understand and accept myself as a person and to know that there was a reason why I am what I am today. I still have questions about my faith (thinking outside the box again) but I really would like to learn. Really, what I want to know is what it feels like to know that you're in the presence of God, things like that.

Going back to the quote. "Intellectual gift" just made me realize even more that yes, i really do know who i am and that this isn't a bad thing to have. It has made me realize that I can work with Asperger's and play upon my strengths and to make them even more stronger and maybe eventually my weaknesses will just fade away. Yes, they will be there, but I won't be too worried about them because i would be confident in myself. I would have the knowledge to know what I am good at and what i can work with.

I just wanted to share my story with everyone. I'm not trying to change people's ways or anything. Just wanted to share my story. I do have questions and I used to be and maybe still very doubtful about certain things, but I really would like to learn and grown spiritually.


Surely "born again Christian" is a tautology. All Christians have been born again, regardless of denomination. Thank you for sharing your story with us. This all sounds very exciting! All the best in your walk with God.


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23 Feb 2007, 4:41 pm

colonel1fan wrote:
thechadmaster wrote:
Dont think of AS as a curse but a an intellectual gift from God.


WARNING: LONG POST

All, I have to say is. Wow! I totally felt this sentence. First, I just want to share some things with everyone. I used to be like some of you out there asking the "why" question when I was a kid. "Why me?" That kind of thing. And I used to go to church with my family every sunday, but it never did anything for me. I never felt any different than what I was doing in my every day life during the week. I tried because I wanted to know the answer to the why question. I wanted to know, what my parents were trying to put upon us children and for us to learn and grow spiritually. It never happened for me. For me, I always wanted hard evidence, because it was hard for me to think outside the box (it still is) and to see something that wasn't there.

Anyways, now I go to school in the southern US, where that region is part of the "Bible Belt" and at first, i didn't know if i wanted to get back into the religious/spiritual part of my life again after not being a part of it for so long. Well, a friend of mine talked me into going to one of the campus ministries with her, and a year later, I'm still there and have added other campus ministries to my activites as well.

Now, another thing you have to understand is that I come from the midwest and grew up in the traditional church and coming down here, I have kind of gone out of my shell and have been to very contemporary services down here and I continue going to them. It has been a totally new experience for me. I guess you could say that I've been sort of a born again Christian.

Because of this experience, I've come to grow as a person and have to come to understand and accept myself as a person and to know that there was a reason why I am what I am today. I still have questions about my faith (thinking outside the box again) but I really would like to learn. Really, what I want to know is what it feels like to know that you're in the presence of God, things like that.

Going back to the quote. "Intellectual gift" just made me realize even more that yes, i really do know who i am and that this isn't a bad thing to have. It has made me realize that I can work with Asperger's and play upon my strengths and to make them even more stronger and maybe eventually my weaknesses will just fade away. Yes, they will be there, but I won't be too worried about them because i would be confident in myself. I would have the knowledge to know what I am good at and what i can work with.

I just wanted to share my story with everyone. I'm not trying to change people's ways or anything. Just wanted to share my story. I do have questions and I used to be and maybe still very doubtful about certain things, but I really would like to learn and grown spiritually.

What is was for me is becoming completely engulfed in an energy I didn't understand. We had a camp with youth, even though I only went 'cause I had people I could actually talk to there. But then, he said the words "You're gonna feel him tonight" and there was such a force, unexplainable, in the room that it was hard to even stand. Guess that's what made me beleive.



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23 Feb 2007, 5:13 pm

God made my life easier. The people at my church are some of the nicest people I've ever met



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23 Feb 2007, 5:44 pm

because you touch yourself.



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23 Feb 2007, 6:07 pm

To piss you off

(Some people here blame him, I figured I'd be a 'smart ass' about it ;) )



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23 Feb 2007, 11:38 pm

There is no need, matt271, to slander blackthorne for expressing an honest opinion about the people at church whom blackthorne has met. And I do not see the logical connection.

Is Corvus referring to the degeneration of rock and roll as what someone is allegedly doing to irritate matt271?

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24 Feb 2007, 10:02 am

AlexandertheSolitary wrote:
There is no need, matt271, to slander blackthorne for expressing an honest opinion about the people at church whom blackthorne has met. And I do not see the logical connection.

Is Corvus referring to the degeneration of rock and roll as what someone is allegedly doing to irritate matt271?

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I think Matt was responding to the original question as a joke. I was responding to the original question as a joke. Sometimes, its fun to "joke around" because there is enough seriousness going on.



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25 Feb 2007, 1:09 am

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Of course not. =)

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I'm...too sexy for my fur...too sexy for my fur...


Yeah...save the fox...don't get greedy over their fur...
Fur coats are...pointless...don't kill animals for fur...you can wear imitations instead...



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25 Feb 2007, 1:10 am

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My personal thought is that if there's a god, he probably tries to teach us through life experiece and its up to us to do the math in the end. Then again, even though I was raised and confirmed catholic, I tend to believe in a more buddhist structure where we all have to take a turn being something - I was probably some brash popular twit in a past-life plenty of times and like eveyone else, I've gotta take my turn with this as well. I've heard the idea mentioned by many that having AS/autism is your last trip arround before graduating - lol, if that's true it explains a lot IMO.


Can't wait to graduate...



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25 Feb 2007, 1:35 am

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God made us aspies because he hates us. There is no other reason folks. I am sorry, you are screwed and this is indeed a curse. Also, we are all going to hell for questioning his will on the matter. Have a nice life folks!


Your comment makes me feel cathartic...it makes me smile...why? I am a Christian...but I guess it resonates with the way I actually feel sometimes... But...I do wish to return to the notion that God loves us...and supports us...that God has planned out the best for us...Somebody told me 'think about your heart that keeps on beating even if you are doing nothing consciously to make it go on,' and I realized what a miracle it was...I don't know...it's not easy to articulate these things...



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25 Feb 2007, 5:27 am

sunnycat wrote:
Kitsune wrote:
Of course not. =)

:lol:

I'm...too sexy for my fur...too sexy for my fur...


Yeah...save the fox...don't get greedy over their fur...
Fur coats are...pointless...don't kill animals for fur...you can wear imitations instead...



fur coats are stylish.



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25 Feb 2007, 3:18 pm

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fur coats are stylish.


Hmm... I have to admit that I may not know enough on fur coats to make comments on them. I've never owned one or had a chance to appreciate one...All I know is that a lot of animals get killed to make them.,..



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25 Feb 2007, 3:44 pm

sunnycat wrote:
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fur coats are stylish.


Hmm... I have to admit that I may not know enough on fur coats to make comments on them. I've never owned one or had a chance to appreciate one...All I know is that a lot of animals get killed to make them.,..


a lot of animals get killed because they step out on the roads, doesn't mean we should stop driving.



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25 Feb 2007, 5:50 pm

Corvus wrote:
AlexandertheSolitary wrote:
There is no need, matt271, to slander blackthorne for expressing an honest opinion about the people at church whom blackthorne has met. And I do not see the logical connection.

Is Corvus referring to the degeneration of rock and roll as what someone is allegedly doing to irritate matt271?

Good regards to all or most here.


I think Matt was responding to the original question as a joke. I was responding to the original question as a joke. Sometimes, its fun to "joke around" because there is enough seriousness going on.


Fair point. Have you not seen some of the instances of my humour on Wrong Planet forums/fora?


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25 Feb 2007, 5:54 pm

sunnycat wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
My personal thought is that if there's a god, he probably tries to teach us through life experiece and its up to us to do the math in the end. Then again, even though I was raised and confirmed catholic, I tend to believe in a more buddhist structure where we all have to take a turn being something - I was probably some brash popular twit in a past-life plenty of times and like eveyone else, I've gotta take my turn with this as well. I've heard the idea mentioned by many that having AS/autism is your last trip arround before graduating - lol, if that's true it explains a lot IMO.


Can't wait to graduate...


Does techstepgenr8tion mean all Aspergians are going to achieve enlightenment in this lifetime? How exciting! Or is it just that all the Karma for past misdeeds and a few misdeeds in this life gets worked off, leaving no need for further purging of sins or penance?


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01 Mar 2007, 11:34 am

God made Aspies for the same reason He creates all things...because He wanted to and He is God. To complain to God about such things is to judge the creator and giver of life.


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