14 dead and 50 injured in mass shooting in Colorado.

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Simply tragic and senseless and selfish and cowardly. I'll spare the Internet any speculation from me as to how or why or 'where do we go from here.' Suffice it to say, my heart goes out to the victims (especially those who have joined "the silent majority"), as well as to their friends and family.

There are no words for any of this.

Don't call this guy crazy just yet. I hope the media does not portray this guy as a crazed loner unless he is one and will portray him honestly for a change. If he appeared normal before this, please, just say he is and don't turn him into the boogieman.

University Of Colorado Medical School is where this guy was a student so how you going to get a violent, crazed, loner out of that fact? Violent crazed loners do not make it to Medical School.

Maybe like most people who Commit dispicable crimes he will claim to have aspergers Its quiet common in the uk.

Something tells me this guy, named James Holmes, would view Asperger's as weakness. He had guns, bombs and booby trapped his apartment. Sounds like he has been on the internet researching this crap.

My guess is his plan was to commit suicide and then when his apartment was later searched, no one would be there to warn people it was rigged with explosives. He ended up not having the guts to kill himself so he was able to alert the police to the situation at his apartment.

Hopefully this will blow over like the Loughner attack (Tuscon). Not only do I heavily favor individual liberty, but the government can't keep people safe from such a thing even if it suddenly had an obligation to protect individuals.

Regardless of the weapon, a theater is simply a real crappy place to defend against a high casualty attack- even if it's mostly empty!

He probably did appear relatively normal before this since sociopaths(ASPD) pretend to be normal most of the time.

I honestly don't know why an ordinary citizen would want one, unless used for something like hunting. There is also home protection, but there are better ways of executing this than flat out shooting someone. I know its the people that are the problem, hence when I said "when in possession". Guns don't kill people, people do. If guns are deemed so necessary over there, even an improved review of those wanting to purchase fire arms could help keep them out of wrong hands. But even then it would probably still be fairly easy to get them through illegal means, if you know the right people

NO WAY could an armed civilian stopped this guy. He wore a bullet proof vest. He was prepared. Maybe he wore the vest so no one could shoot him in theater and he could max out on number of casualties and he planned to take his own life later. So the answer would not be to send in all the armed civilians one can muster. That could very well result in even more casualties in the form of accidental shootings and loss of business at movie theaters across the board.

When will the media focus on the impact of violent culture as a determining factor in deadly shooting rampages and not whether the person is a loner? All these people who go on these shootings obsess on guns, are fascinated by violent culture and are often part of violent culture centered cliques. These are just facts. These people are NOT loners.

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Well hunting and protection I imagine would be the main reasons. I am not saying its good to shoot people but I am sure a lot of people would prefer to face someone breaking into their house with a gun.......with a gun rather than their bare hands for instance. Guns are just rather common so people are used to having them. And as things are banning them would probably do more harm than good for various reasons. I am not a huge fan of the things myself, but hey I don't feel that is a reason to bar people who are responsible with them from having them.

Well what did he have a bullet proof vest on his head?....if someone had happened to be there who could make a good head shot they might have been able to bring him down. Of course sending in a bunch of armed civilians would be a stupid idea and just add to the chaos and death but one person with a good aim could have potentially taken him down.

PhD candidate at the University of Colorado. This is what he was enrolled as but he was withdrawing from the university. His major was neuroscience.

It would have been difficult to do in the chaos and might have resulted in an accidental shooting. People do not think straight in these situations.

Anyone that can't get around ant state's gun laws probably isn't mentally competent to leave their home by themselves in the first place. I've met plenty of felons and people that were judicially committed (without charges) that used to get and carry guns to learn this...and that doesn't even cover all the ways to get them (gun shows were not a favored way to get them either). The fact of the matter is that the constitution is designed to make guns readily available and anything that might have a chance of cutting back the supply of guns to criminals will 1) be struck down as unconstitutional, 2) increase overall crime, and 3) leave criminals with almost as many guns as they started with.



Bulletproof vests do not cover all critical points on the body and are rated for different bullets. Some won't stop anything bigger than a .38 while others will stop multiple hits from armor piercing .30-06 rounds. A bullet may not pierce a vest if the vest was intended to stop that caliber, but all that energy has to be transferred somewhere and can create significant blunt force trauma. The manufacturers don't expect you to be able to keep on fighting, they only expect to keep you from getting punched full of holes. Getting shot in the vest is still like having Barry Bonds smack you with a sledgehammer!

I just saw a photo of James Holmes. He is very good looking and has a smug smile on his face.

John Browning, the guy is a PhD candidate ffs, he had it planned out. Don't you think he would make sure he had a damned good vest on, the best he could afford. The guy is a smart dude and calculating. He had all his basis covered, even a gas mask to protect him from the smoke he unleashed on the crowd. He was not going to be easy to take out. The cops did it only because he was completely out of bullets, I bet, and he was too afraid of getting shot by them.

Just admit this is one case a concealed weapon would not have harmed James Holmes and it might have even hurt an innocent civilian in the theater.