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20 Aug 2012, 9:08 pm

I disagree with the death penalty, but I agree with consensual euthanasia for the terminally ill in a lot of pain. Due to where I work I occasionally get to experience watching someone waste away slowly and painfully.



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29 Aug 2012, 11:06 pm

Most replies didn't get what I was referring to (but thanks for your opinions, at any rate).

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It all depends on why a person is aggressive or violent that determines if they are dangerous. Sometimes people are dangerous because of reasons they can't control, for instance disorders that cause them to be violent or dangerous. Sometimes even the most violent of criminals had no control over their actions, depending on what disorders they may or may not have had. If it is possible to treat the disorders that make criminals dangerous then they should be treated and then released but kept under observation for a while to make sure they are cured. If treatment is not possible, then there really isn't any point in keeping them alive because they would just take up jail space and they couldn't ever be released.


Yes, aggression is caused by something - but why not handle animals in the same manner? In all probability the cause is the owner, and they'll likely get more animals that become aggressive again. It's the hypocrisy and ultimate futility that annoys me.



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30 Aug 2012, 1:34 am

after my recent accident, i surely wished to be just put out of my misery.



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30 Aug 2012, 9:13 am

The shoot horses, don't they?

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30 Aug 2012, 2:00 pm

Intelligent non-human animals should have the right to life.

Humans who want it should have the right to death.



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30 Aug 2012, 2:26 pm

I oppose the death penalty (even for the likes of Saddam Hussein or Che Guevara), but I support assisted euthanasia (with consent from the person wishing to die, that is). If I ever get Alzheimer's, I'd rather end my life while I'm still sane instead of spending the next few years of my life gradually losing my mind and living my final months bedridden with the IQ of an overcooked vegetable.



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31 Aug 2012, 8:25 pm

Kurgan wrote:
I oppose the death penalty (even for the likes of Saddam Hussein or Che Guevara), but I support assisted euthanasia (with consent from the person wishing to die, that is). If I ever get Alzheimer's, I'd rather end my life while I'm still sane instead of spending the next few years of my life gradually losing my mind and living my final months bedridden with the IQ of an overcooked vegetable.


I completely agree, Alzheimer's may be the way I least want to go, the torment of the confusion, and how people remember me in my last few years...



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31 Aug 2012, 9:36 pm

Animals are animals, I don't think compassion or mercy should apply to species different than us that can't even communicate with us unambiguously. Specially if we are talking about an aggressive dog. We definitely have no scarcity of dogs, and most dogs are decent dogs that would not kill people. So, I say, f**k those aggressive dogs. It is most likely someone's fault that their minds are broken, but that does not change that they are. Killing them is the best we can do for the safety of humans AND other animals.


The only valid reason I cant think of to protect an animal from death would be if it is an endangered species. We need to keep the variety.

Born Humans are not animals and thus deserve more protection from us. A criminal that is getting forcibly killed is not being euthanazed, he is being executed. Maybe it is good or not.

In regards to assisted suicide, if the person has made it clear that she has an intention to die then it would be immoral to force this person to live.

When there is mental illness, that's a fuzzy line. I personally, would prefer to die rather than live mentally ill. I think the best solution to this is to, in advance make sure to state that if you reach a state in which you are mentally ill, that you want to die. If that didn't happen, then I can't even dare to answer what is good and what is not good.


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01 Sep 2012, 8:15 am

Vexcalibur wrote:
Born Humans are not animals

Why do you say that?



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01 Sep 2012, 9:47 am

Yeah I was wrong. Born humans are animals.

But we only care about animals of our species. Other animals can go to heck. If you are a rat infesting my house. Or a fly annoying me or an angry dog that can kill people or other animals, then sorry but you got to be killed.


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01 Sep 2012, 10:38 am

Vexcalibur wrote:
Yeah I was wrong. Born humans are animals.

But we only care about animals of our species. Other animals can go to heck. If you are a rat infesting my house. Or a fly annoying me or an angry dog that can kill people or other animals, then sorry but you got to be killed.

What about a chimp in a zoo that has learnt sign language and can communicate?