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09 Oct 2012, 4:40 pm

What did everyone think of the debates in general? Put down as much of your thoughts, opinions, and analysis as you all can.



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09 Oct 2012, 4:53 pm

Romney was very well prepared, having spent the last 8-12 years preparing for this moment.

He had some clever debate tactics--repeating the same lies several times, which Obama didn't bother rebutting, but that will sink into the minds of the sheeple.

Obama took the high road, and remained cool and collected. He doesn't want to come off looking like an Angry Negro.



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09 Oct 2012, 4:59 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
Romney was very well prepared, having spent the last 8-12 years preparing for this moment.

He had some clever debate tactics--repeating the same lies several times, which Obama didn't bother rebutting, but that will sink into the minds of the sheeple.


You know Limbaugh and Hannity had the gall to say that Romney didn't lie or go back on his previous positions once in the debate?


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09 Oct 2012, 5:06 pm

Lord_Gareth wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Romney was very well prepared, having spent the last 8-12 years preparing for this moment.

He had some clever debate tactics--repeating the same lies several times, which Obama didn't bother rebutting, but that will sink into the minds of the sheeple.


You know Limbaugh and Hannity had the gall to say that Romney didn't lie or go back on his previous positions once in the debate?


How is that in any way surprising to you?



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09 Oct 2012, 5:10 pm

Vulture wrote:
Lord_Gareth wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Romney was very well prepared, having spent the last 8-12 years preparing for this moment.

He had some clever debate tactics--repeating the same lies several times, which Obama didn't bother rebutting, but that will sink into the minds of the sheeple.


You know Limbaugh and Hannity had the gall to say that Romney didn't lie or go back on his previous positions once in the debate?


How is that in any way surprising to you?


I dunno. It just was. You'd think they wouldn't let themselves get caught out on s**t you can look up on f****n' CSpan.


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09 Oct 2012, 5:16 pm

Lord_Gareth wrote:
Vulture wrote:
Lord_Gareth wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Romney was very well prepared, having spent the last 8-12 years preparing for this moment.

He had some clever debate tactics--repeating the same lies several times, which Obama didn't bother rebutting, but that will sink into the minds of the sheeple.


You know Limbaugh and Hannity had the gall to say that Romney didn't lie or go back on his previous positions once in the debate?


How is that in any way surprising to you?


I dunno. It just was. You'd think they wouldn't let themselves get caught out on sh** you can look up on f****' CSpan.


They're not concerned about getting caught out. The loons they appeal to will dismiss all evidence as liberal bias and repeat every lie until enough people think it's the truth.



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09 Oct 2012, 5:31 pm

This is my point of view. I thought Obama was calm, cool and collected. He seemed logical in the things he said. Romney seemed like he was a raging bulldog. Romney seemed like he was very aggressive in his approach. Romney seemed like he did not give any substance to his answers or if he did I did not grasp it and he seemed evasive. Even Obama asked for specifics. From my perspective, Obama won the debates but most people seem to think that Romeny did.

From my point of view, Obama seemed to feel disbelief at what Romeny was saying. To me, Obama was in Shell Shock. Here is another thing. Romney kept interupting the moderator. To me, Obama was trying to follow the rules of the debate laid forth by the moderator named Jim Lehrer. From my perspective, it seemed like Romeny had no regard for the rules of debate whatsoever. Yet the American people see Romeny as presidental and Obama who tried to follow the rules but could not as non-presidental. Why do the American people see Romeny as presidental when he came across to me as an aggressive school yard bully and seemed evasive and deceptive as well? I do not grasp this logic whatsoever. It seemed like he was forceful with his points. Yelling, being a bully, being arrogant and being a bulldog does not make your logic sound and what you say are facts and truth.

Why do Americans see this as being presidental and the hallmark of an excellent statesman? I don't get this. If Romeny has disregard for the rules of the system of debate what other rules does Romney have disregard for? Would this man disregard the constitution? Isn't one of the hallmarks of anti-social personality disorder a gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations. Aren't the rules of debate part of our rules, obligations, and social norms? Yet, this man is seen as presidental. How, I ask? How is this man presidental?



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09 Oct 2012, 6:00 pm

Oh, hey, fun times - get a recording or video of the debate and some friends of yours, then take a shot every time the moderator gets blown off. Make sure to stop short of alcohol poisoning!


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09 Oct 2012, 7:17 pm

cubedemon6073 wrote:
This is my point of view. I thought Obama was calm, cool and collected. He seemed logical in the things he said. Romney seemed like he was a raging bulldog. Romney seemed like he was very aggressive in his approach. Romney seemed like he did not give any substance to his answers or if he did I did not grasp it and he seemed evasive. Even Obama asked for specifics. From my perspective, Obama won the debates but most people seem to think that Romeny did.

From my point of view, Obama seemed to feel disbelief at what Romeny was saying. To me, Obama was in Shell Shock. Here is another thing. Romney kept interupting the moderator. To me, Obama was trying to follow the rules of the debate laid forth by the moderator named Jim Lehrer. From my perspective, it seemed like Romeny had no regard for the rules of debate whatsoever. Yet the American people see Romeny as presidental and Obama who tried to follow the rules but could not as non-presidental. Why do the American people see Romeny as presidental when he came across to me as an aggressive school yard bully and seemed evasive and deceptive as well? I do not grasp this logic whatsoever. It seemed like he was forceful with his points. Yelling, being a bully, being arrogant and being a bulldog does not make your logic sound and what you say are facts and truth.

Why do Americans see this as being presidental and the hallmark of an excellent statesman? I don't get this. If Romeny has disregard for the rules of the system of debate what other rules does Romney have disregard for? Would this man disregard the constitution? Isn't one of the hallmarks of anti-social personality disorder a gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations. Aren't the rules of debate part of our rules, obligations, and social norms? Yet, this man is seen as presidental. How, I ask? How is this man presidental?


Americans think being a belligerent bully makes you a strong leader. I say screw it. Fight fire with fire. Let Alan Grayson sit in for Obama in the debates. He knows how to be an as*hole but unlike Romney or Ryan he can do it while telling the truth and sticking to a position.



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09 Oct 2012, 7:32 pm

Screw 'em both. I'm voting for Jill Stein.



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09 Oct 2012, 7:33 pm

Hi everyone, the debates were nothing more then just theatre. Both candidates are bankrolled by the giant banks, the same banks they bailed out. Also both the republican national convention and democratic national convention were scripted. If you don't believe me, I can post links to youtube videos where they held live votes but the result was predetermined on a teleprompter and promptly read, ignoring the will of the people!



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09 Oct 2012, 7:44 pm

ReallyWTF wrote:
Hi everyone, the debates were nothing more then just theatre. Both candidates are bankrolled by the giant banks, the same banks they bailed out. Also both the republican national convention and democratic national convention were scripted. If you don't believe me, I can post links to youtube videos where they held live votes but the result was predetermined on a teleprompter and promptly read, ignoring the will of the people!


Very well, I don't believe you. Please post a link to that one vote about putting something Biblist in their platform statement or whatever it was.



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09 Oct 2012, 7:50 pm

Obama is just a poor debater and overrated speaker in general. Romney isn't great either but he came in prepared and had the advantage of being able to attack the incumbent's indefensible record. Maybe they were expecting the "conservative" Mitt from the primaries to show up? In the end, Romney and Obama have very little policy differences so the actual substance of the debate doesn't really matter. Perhaps they were going to go after Romney for not giving details and were taken by surprise by Romney rattling them off.

I thought Romney "won" the debate but not the crushing game changing performance the media is making it out to be, I think media wanted the narrative of a Romney comeback the entire time since Obama running away with the election wouldn't bring in the ratings. The poll numbers follow the media narrative, reminds me of the 'Santorum surge' in Iowa.



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09 Oct 2012, 7:54 pm

Vulture wrote:
ReallyWTF wrote:
Hi everyone, the debates were nothing more then just theatre. Both candidates are bankrolled by the giant banks, the same banks they bailed out. Also both the republican national convention and democratic national convention were scripted. If you don't believe me, I can post links to youtube videos where they held live votes but the result was predetermined on a teleprompter and promptly read, ignoring the will of the people!


Very well, I don't believe you. Please post a link to that one vote about putting something Biblist in their platform statement or whatever it was.


This is indeed true and happened at both conventions. Taking roll calls with "the yays have it" on the teleprompter, what a joke.



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09 Oct 2012, 8:21 pm

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Obama is just a poor debater and overrated speaker in general. Romney isn't great either but he came in prepared and had the advantage of being able to attack the incumbent's indefensible record. Maybe they were expecting the "conservative" Mitt from the primaries to show up? In the end, Romney and Obama have very little policy differences so the actual substance of the debate doesn't really matter. Perhaps they were going to go after Romney for not giving details and were taken by surprise by Romney rattling them off.


How does being a bulldog and violating the rules of debate make a great debater? This, I do not follow.



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09 Oct 2012, 8:24 pm

Here is the scripted republican national convention. I was actually in Tampa that weekend and at Dr Ron Paul's speech that Sunday as I am a big supporter of his, he's like the only honest politician and always votes with the will of the people in mind and the constitution, but anyways, this is absolute BS >>>

SJ_ylYNbAlY <<< that's the link since this site won't let me post hyperlinks yet cause I'm new, just paste that on the end of a youtube video you just watched.

This is Ben Swann going over how both the DNC and RNC were scripted! He's a wonderful journalist, I suggest you like him on Facebook and follow him!

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