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Mdyar
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13 Oct 2011, 8:40 am

ruveyn wrote:
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Mormons are the new Nazi's.

Brigham Young was Hitler before Hitler.


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B.Y. did not kill any Jews.

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I wouldn't be so sure. Nobody knows where those golden plates came from. :D


It was Joseph Smith of Palmyra N.Y. that came up with the plates or claimed to have.

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A 1893 engraving by Edward Stevenson of the Angel Moroni delivering the Golden Plates to Joseph Smith in 1827. From Reminiscences of Joseph, the Prophet



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13 Oct 2011, 9:04 am

ruveyn wrote:
JWC wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
JWC wrote:
Mormons are the new Nazi's.

Brigham Young was Hitler before Hitler.


/thread


B.Y. did not kill any Jews.

ruveyn


I wouldn't be so sure. Nobody knows where those golden plates came from. :D


It was Joseph Smith of Palmyra N.Y. that came up with the plates or claimed to have.

ruveyn


That's what they want you to believe. I'm not buying it. :shameonyou:



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13 Oct 2011, 9:46 am

JWC wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
JWC wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
JWC wrote:
Mormons are the new Nazi's.

Brigham Young was Hitler before Hitler.


/thread


B.Y. did not kill any Jews.

ruveyn


I wouldn't be so sure. Nobody knows where those golden plates came from. :D


It was Joseph Smith of Palmyra N.Y. that came up with the plates or claimed to have.

ruveyn


That's what they want you to believe. I'm not buying it. :shameonyou:


But, it's an actual engraving of the event.

Cameras hadn't been invented yet. So, they had sculptors around who would make engravings as important happenings took place.



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13 Oct 2011, 11:51 am

pandabear wrote:
JWC wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
JWC wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
JWC wrote:
Mormons are the new Nazi's.

Brigham Young was Hitler before Hitler.


/thread


B.Y. did not kill any Jews.

ruveyn


I wouldn't be so sure. Nobody knows where those golden plates came from. :D


It was Joseph Smith of Palmyra N.Y. that came up with the plates or claimed to have.

ruveyn


That's what they want you to believe. I'm not buying it. :shameonyou:


But, it's an actual engraving of the event.

Cameras hadn't been invented yet. So, they had sculptors around who would make engravings as important happenings took place.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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13 Oct 2011, 4:29 pm

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But, it's an actual engraving of the event.

Cameras hadn't been invented yet. So, they had sculptors around who would make engravings as important happenings took place.


Do you really and truly believe that someone was their to make a drawing of the Angel Baloney giving the Plates and the urim and thummim to Smith. Really? Come on!

ruveyn



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09 Oct 2012, 9:44 am

ruveyn wrote:
pandabear wrote:

But, it's an actual engraving of the event.

Cameras hadn't been invented yet. So, they had sculptors around who would make engravings as important happenings took place.


Do you really and truly believe that someone was their to make a drawing of the Angel Baloney giving the Plates and the urim and thummim to Smith. Really? Come on!

ruveyn


Well? What is your explanation, then?

Nowadays, if a news cameraman isn't present, then it didn't happen.

Back then, if a sculptor wasn't present, then it didn't happen.



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09 Oct 2012, 9:58 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
pandabear wrote:

But, it's an actual engraving of the event.

Cameras hadn't been invented yet. So, they had sculptors around who would make engravings as important happenings took place.


Do you really and truly believe that someone was their to make a drawing of the Angel Baloney giving the Plates and the urim and thummim to Smith. Really? Come on!

ruveyn


Well? What is your explanation, then?

Nowadays, if a news cameraman isn't present, then it didn't happen.

Back then, if a sculptor wasn't present, then it didn't happen.


That's exceptionally easy to explain. He was either a dangerous lunatic or a devious liar.



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09 Oct 2012, 9:59 am

Vulture wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
pandabear wrote:

But, it's an actual engraving of the event.

Cameras hadn't been invented yet. So, they had sculptors around who would make engravings as important happenings took place.


Do you really and truly believe that someone was their to make a drawing of the Angel Baloney giving the Plates and the urim and thummim to Smith. Really? Come on!

ruveyn


Well? What is your explanation, then?

Nowadays, if a news cameraman isn't present, then it didn't happen.

Back then, if a sculptor wasn't present, then it didn't happen.


That's exceptionally easy to explain. He was either a dangerous lunatic or a devious liar.


Pariah's being sarcastic, friend.


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10 Oct 2012, 9:06 pm

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At the latest Values Voters Summit, an evangelical pastor had stated that true evangelicals should never vote for a Mormon like Mit Romney. Are Mormons welcome anymore in the evangelical dominated Republican party? And if so, are they only supposed to provide votes for "acceptable" candidates, but stay away from running for office, themselves? Will Mormons just be added to the list of undesirable elements, along with the gays and Muslims by the Republican party?
To be sure, I'm not going to vote for Romney, regardless if he gets the Republican nomination, but that won't have anything to do with his religion. What is especially disturbing about this is, if Mormons can be singled out by a major element in a political party as undesirable to run for office, how safe are the rest of us?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


The KKK, for the first time in its long history started this 21st Centurey by...allowing Catholics to join!

Catholics were on the long laundry list of folks the KKK hated.
But now they too can join the KKK! (is this a great country or what?!).

Evangelicals used to hate Catholics as well.
But now Catholic Rick Santorum champions, and is championed by Protestant Evangelicals.

So eventually they might start to like Mormons as well.

But it will just have to take some more time.

Maybe Glenn Beck will run for President, and that will clinch it.



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10 Oct 2012, 10:14 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
At the latest Values Voters Summit, an evangelical pastor had stated that true evangelicals should never vote for a Mormon like Mit Romney. Are Mormons welcome anymore in the evangelical dominated Republican party? And if so, are they only supposed to provide votes for "acceptable" candidates, but stay away from running for office, themselves? Will Mormons just be added to the list of undesirable elements, along with the gays and Muslims by the Republican party?
To be sure, I'm not going to vote for Romney, regardless if he gets the Republican nomination, but that won't have anything to do with his religion. What is especially disturbing about this is, if Mormons can be singled out by a major element in a political party as undesirable to run for office, how safe are the rest of us?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


The KKK, for the first time in its long history started this 21st Centurey by...allowing Catholics to join!

Catholics were on the long laundry list of folks the KKK hated.
But now they too can join the KKK! (is this a great country or what?!).

Evangelicals used to hate Catholics as well.
But now Catholic Rick Santorum champions, and is championed by Protestant Evangelicals.

So eventually they might start to like Mormons as well.

But it will just have to take some more time.

Maybe Glenn Beck will run for President, and that will clinch it.


Then maybe Glenn Beck and the Grand Dragon of the KKK can cast away their last taboo, and have flaming sodomy together!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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11 Oct 2012, 8:27 am

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11 Oct 2012, 8:43 am

I don't have a problem with mormons. Actually I share some of their ideas.



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11 Oct 2012, 11:59 am

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I wouldn't be so sure. Nobody knows where those golden plates came from. :D



If you want the Mormon version of events, the doctrine teaches that the prophet Lehi brought the plates over from Judea to what is now the USA around the year 600 BC.

So yes, it was actually Jewish gold.

They were guarded by the prophet-warrior 'Moroni' during a war with South American natives hence the name and he buried the plates in what is now New York. Moroni became an angel and was one of the figures who appeared in Joseph Smiths visions.

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Joseph Smith, supposedly under the power of divine direction dug the plates up the 1820's.


http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,49 ... -6,00.html



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14 Oct 2012, 4:34 pm

there are 2 homegrown american religions [cults]
Scientology
Mormanism



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15 Oct 2012, 1:40 am

Since I moved out west, I've met a bunch of Mormons. They seem like good people and pretty normal in most regards.



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15 Oct 2012, 1:47 am

We have - and have had - Mormon neighbors at my apartment complex, and I've found them to be quite a bit friendlier and helpful than many of our Non-Mormon neighbors.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer