Question for Zionists

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There you go again calling a bloodless solution a pipe dream.

It's only a bloodless solution if all the 7.9 million citizens of Israel just agree to leave Israel with no objection. What if they don't?

Are you going to round them up and deport them by force?

Appeasement never works, sometimes you actually do have to stand up and fight. I would say the Israelis are perfectly justified in defending themselves.

It's only a bloodless solution if all the 7.9 million citizens of Israel just agree to leave Israel with no objection. What if they don't?

Are you going to round them up and deport them by force?

I'm so sick of the polarization on this issue. I remember being called an evil Zionist at uni for drinking a Diet Coke. I much prefer the company of Zionists if that's how the pro-Palestinian people are going to be. I remember someone arguing once that just because most of the people on the Palestinian side of the argument are bad at making their case, doesn't mean they are wrong, but it's the tactics they use. Every time one of them says 'the situation there is ironically like Nazi Germany', or compares Israel to the Nazis, my sympathy dies a little bit. There is so much antisemitism not just among the Muslim supporters of Palestine. Almost all of them at some point bring up how much power Jewish people have in the world as if that was a bad thing. To me that speaks of an unacknowledged antisemitism. I realise that criticism of Israel =/= antisemitism, but when the supporters of Palestine say 'WE ARE NOT ANTISEMITIC, WE ARE ANTI ZIONIST', they doth protest too much. They need to actually look at antisemitism where it does exist in their ranks, and kick it out, if they are to have any credibility - but of course they can't do that because they're in bed with some real Jew haters.

And they lose my support right there. I sympathise with the situation Palestinians are in, but I can't support their movement because of the shape it is in.

My partner is a Zionist and actually goes out of his way to buy fruit at the supermarket that was grown in Israel. I don't agree with Zionism and I don't think Israel should've come about in the first place because it has created more problems than it has solved. However, I support Israel continuing to exist because that's the least painful option. Even my boyfriend, who makes the (imo) stupid argument 'we (Jews) were there first!' agrees that the Israelis should not be building settlements and believes in a two-state solution.

Israel isn't protecting Jews, though that was its aim. Just because it's not fulfilling its original purpose doesn't mean we should dismantle it. Frankly, Israel has a lot of things going for it that seem obvious to me, that dismantling the state would be a disaster even for the Palestinians and the region in general. Hamas wanting to wipe Israel off the map seems counter-productive, to me. Criticism of Israel's flaws (which are many) needs to come from sane people who make every effort to distance themselves from loons.

It seems like something that both the extreme right and extreme left can agree on: Israel is the worst. When it is actually peanuts to other injustices going on in the world.