Aspergers and (dislike of) black culture?

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Last edited by Dantac on 29 Jun 2012, 11:50 am, edited 1 time in total.

im hispanic but i love black culture. dont form your opinion of black culture from bet and most rap music cause if they portray it in a way that entertains people and makes them money thats it.

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The one time I was robbed while working in a convenience store was by a white boy in khakis and a polo shirt and sunglasses. Really.

Sure the guy could have been going in to rob the store. The guy could have been going in to get cigarettes. The guy could have been going in to use the bathroom. The guy could have been going in to ask directions. The guy could know the cashier and was going in to tell him something, etc.

Just because somebody is black and thug looking doesn't make them an actual thug. Also, not all thugs act like thugs all the time. Thugs do go to the store and buy things. They do watch tv. They do shower. They do talk on the phone. They do get yelled at by their mothers. Etc.

I am an old (almost 50) white lady. I love gangsta rap. I also love classic rock, some alternative, jazz, blues, some classical, bluegrass, showtunes, crooners, and some new age music.

Probably about half the "thugs" you see when you are out (unless you are in the deep hood) are just poseurs and it's just fashion and style.

I don't like rap music and gangsta culture...and I'm black; not every black person enjoys swearing, being 'thuggish' and using the 'N word'. Secondly, it's not 'black culture,' but purely a part of society that is dominated by black people; if it was 'black culture' then surely this would refer to every black person in the world, including black muslims, black jews, aboriginal peoples etc...the list could go on. Lastly, gangsta culture is NOT unique to so called 'black culture'; many cultures past and present were and are seen as 'gangsters' for example, the Mafia, Skinheads and Greasers- to name a few.

I hate the idea of "black culture" for one reason, because i don't see why we should seek to separate ourselves upon race in the 21st century, we should drop all this positive discrimination crap, we should just try to avoid mentioning colour because otherwise it will always be there as a different, i dislike gay pride, because i think people should just accept there sexuality and not try to make any difference about it, its things like BET that keep these walls up. i see everything without race so stop making things that exclude other races, Its like segregation but voluntary, splitting the community down the middle over something as daft as colour.

Have a look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollonian_and_Dionysian.

This might give you a clue.

American Black Culture definitely promotes the Dionysian aspect of people.

ruveyn

ruveyn

Yeah, rite!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VsE9T4Sr30[/youtube]

Now play the hip-hop version.

ruveyn

I don't know how I would define "black culture" but a common theme in this thread so far seems to be hip hop, and I've been immersed in hip hop culture for quite some time now. This was a result of my upbringing; my Bubby's best friend was Nana, a black woman with a house that was constantly inhabited by at least five of her nearly twenty grandchildren. I don't know if I ever would've been exposed to real hip hop culture without my not-technically-siblings in my Nana's family. I also probably would've been a very lonely child.

I love the art, I love the dance, I love the music. I used to live for battles, improvised(somewhat) freestyle street dance competitions, and some of the most politically charged music I've heard in my lifetime has been ad-libbed rapping in any number of environments. I don't particularly like the sub-genre of hip hop music called "gangsta" but I don't hate it, though some of the mainstream rap music that seems to represent hip hop for so many non-fans isn't exactly great. In my experience the vast majority of fans of crappy hip hop are white boys from middle class families who romantacize some sort of gangster lifestyle involving lots of drugs and violence and they call it "ghetto" etc.

Even when I was really involved in the hip hop community in neighboring cities there were always a few white girls who would give me crap for not adopting hip hop linguistic styles(I think that's called ebonics?) And not being "black enough" or more often they would call it "too white" which never really bothered me because I see authenticity as being an important aspect of hip hop culture and I think that never feeling like I had to change to be part of hip hop culture had a really positive impact on my self-worth throughout the years.

But... back to Nana and my childhood... I was an awkward little aspie and I still am awkward and I do stand out when I'm with my black family and friends, and I'm often the only white person at social gatherings but I've often credited my AS for me being awkward... friends and family, not so much. There is a lot of humor derived from my awkward-white-girl status and there has been since I can remember but I've never felt isolated or disrespected, and I've always felt like I belong.

There is more frequently discomfort with friends of my same ethnicity(well, white, not Jewish) because it's not entirely uncommon for people to see Nana and co. as a novelty, then make remarks that don't feel right at all and what feels much worse is when I'm getting to know someone new and they turn out to be uncomfortable socializing with my friends/family who aren't white. I can't really convey the feeling to words accurately but it's like the only time I've been made to feel uncomfortable in relation to any ethnic group it's been members of my own ethnic group thinking I'll just "get it" when they look down on people I've known since childhood. Luckily for me that's not a super common attitude.

Again, I don't know how I would define "black culture" but hostility and bad music is not something I consider exclusive to any specific ethnic group. I think a lot of people are somewhat isolated throughout life to their own ethnic group or specific culture and base their ideas of others on very limited experiences, seeing huge differences between people where there is not much difference in reality. I certainly don't feel an aversion to black people, or really any ethnic or cultural group.

I do specifically avoid religious people who repeatedly bring up their beliefs in seemingly unrelated conversations. I guess I probably have inaccurate beliefs about hyper religious people. So there's that!

First off, in all fairness, I have had a rather limited experience with the African-American population. Defacto segregation still very much exists. Admittedly, while I was living in a small suburban area I did have a couple non-white playmates, whom were a brother, and sister. But, for what it's worth, they were not entirely of African descent. They were also part Caucasian, and even Native American. Sort of like Melungeons. Like they otherwise looked Caucasoid, but had cinnamon brown skin. So anyway, I don't think that they were particularly part of a "black culture", as they lived in a white bread neighborhood, and even had white family members living near them. So I think of them as being more so "brown Caucasians". And their presence did not negate the village being predominantly ethnic European, in it's demographics, and cultural heritage. Which I think is sort of comparable to black Jews in Israel. And also the cultures of black peoples have been influenced by various historic factors, and social developements. One can not rightly pigeon hole them all together. But then again, on the negative side, in an on-line exchange, I encountered an African-American whom believes that vaccinations cause autism. I ended up trying to refute him, but he was just willfully ignorant. I do wish that I hadn't come out as an Aspie to him either. He attributed my A.S. charecteristics as being why I didn't get how vaccines contribute to the developement of autism. In his words, "we can't see the forest for the trees", for whatever that means. But I also get the impression that he might also be a part of the 5 percenter cult. So it's shouldn't be all that surprising that he'd be of a conspiracy kook mindset. And I feel that popular culture is heavily impacted by Afro-American contributions, to the point that now blackness is regarded as being synonomous to coolness. From the jazz age which began in the 20's, to what I would term the hip hop age, which began in the 90's, the popular culture is a reflection of black artistic innovations. I myself have a hip hop/r&b album, by a performer named Kiley Dean. It was given to me, by a friend of a friend, who also happens to be black. I rather liked it. I consider it to be like a "concrete jungle music". It's beats are similar to the tribal drumming of various West African peoples, only with electronic instruments. But if you don't mind attending inter-tribal pow wows, as I did once, it shouldn't bother you. Techno music, on the otherhand, I can not stand very well, because of it's dull driving monotony. Such music is about the only kind I do not like. I also somewhat resent the fact that popular culture has largely supplanted folk culture. It's nearly impossible for me to find any albums of Celtic music, which is a type of music I'm particularly fond of, in the major retail outlets.By the way I feel that this parody music video, by Al Yankovic, illustrates the way blacks view Aspies, generally speaking. "White and Nerdy"

I know that this thread is old, but you're incorrect and couldn't be more so - at least in respect to myself.

I listen to rap and hip hop. I love the dress code and style that hip hop entails.

I actually find the "culture" of country somewhat detestable. The idea driving of tractors and wearing overalls...Kill me now.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W69SSLfRJho[/youtube]

(Time to put this thread out of its misery.)