Crazy gun nut shoots man just for breaking into her house

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02 Feb 2013, 10:28 pm

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I guess my advice to you, since you seem so concerned about burglar safety, is not to bust into an American home.

Indeed, gun ownership here may have something to do with why the U.S. violent crime rate is only about 1/5 that of the UK.



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03 Feb 2013, 2:02 am

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No one has ever replied on the rabid skunk query,how to you safely kill a rabid animal without a gun?And there's no animal control here,you are on your own if something attacks your chickens,should I whack the animal with a stick?
If someone is banging at the front door and asking for help that's way different than climbing in a window or forcing the door open.If this happens at three in the morning I'm thinking the worst.

I know, let's take a random urban liberal and make them deal with a standard skunk that found itself trapped in a backyard, and do so without a gun. Rabies isn't necessary to win that argument! :lol:


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03 Feb 2013, 5:53 am

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As for the person in need of help banging on the door I will help them.
BUT I'm going to look first and when (if) I first open my door I'll have a pistol stuck in the back of my britches and my hand back there. Find out if they are legit before letting your guard down one inch.
People have been killed or cut up for not being prudent about that.


So, so paranoid.
I don't even have my door locked. They know if they need help, just shout as they walk in, and I'll be out. If I'm there anyway.



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03 Feb 2013, 6:09 am

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I don't even have my door locked.


I think it's quite sensible to keep your door locked. Robberies of opportunity do happen, even in the most peaceful places. Sure, if you have insurance you can replace things, but lots of people have personal belongings that they have an emotional attachment to.

Plus, anyone that's willing to rob someone's house, should be treated as potentially dangerous.

Case in point: my old psychiatrist left his door open in a high dollar apartment complex in the city (Oz is safer than the UK last I checked) -- which has all of the usual safety features to get into it. Someone walking down the hall stole his briefcase that was in view of the open door; lots of important things that couldn't be replaced stolen.

But then, that's just me. I also wear a seat-belt and exercise regularly, just in case.

I look through the shades too to see who is knocking on the door -- if it's someone I don't know, I don't answer. I guess I'm not a Good Samaritan. I'm fine with that though, as I wouldn't do the same to others, i.e., ask for help from a private property.

Though I don't have a weapon with me (only when I go for long walks in the bush), but I couldn't fault someone if that's their choice. It might save them after all. Probably not needed, but possibly.

I don't think it's anymore paranoid than putting on a seat-belt to have a weapon out of view when you answer the door to someone you don't know.

But again, that's me.



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03 Feb 2013, 9:54 am

I never locked the door when I was married,but I do now.But my car keys are on the dash.
I've got a 1/4 mile private drive,no lights.They have to be pretty bold to walk up here at night.Neighbors will whistle or holler when they walk up,to let you know.
But home invasion next door plus a known theif walking up my drive with some bogus sob story,said he ran his four wheeler off in the creek,amazing that his shoes or pants were not wet.we have a Meth problem so that means thieves,jettered out thieves.
When my son was here so were his guns,so now I bought my own.For safety reasons and I think I have valid reasons to own one,or two.
I don't understand the arsenal bit ,but I also don't get why people collect those ugly Hummel figures either.


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03 Feb 2013, 11:41 am

J-Greens wrote:
Raptor wrote:
As for the person in need of help banging on the door I will help them.
BUT I'm going to look first and when (if) I first open my door I'll have a pistol stuck in the back of my britches and my hand back there. Find out if they are legit before letting your guard down one inch.
People have been killed or cut up for not being prudent about that.


So, so paranoid.
I don't even have my door locked. They know if they need help, just shout as they walk in, and I'll be out. If I'm there anyway.


More like I live in the real world.


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03 Feb 2013, 11:55 am

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So, so paranoid.
I don't even have my door locked. They know if they need help, just shout as they walk in, and I'll be out. If I'm there anyway.


It is obvious you do not live in Camden NJ. By the way the Camden police force no longer exists. It is now protected by the N.J. State police.

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03 Feb 2013, 12:00 pm

Misslizard wrote:
No one has ever replied on the rabid skunk query,how to you safely kill a rabid animal without a gun?And there's no animal control here,you are on your own if something attacks your chickens,should I whack the animal with a stick?
If someone is banging at the front door and asking for help that's way different than climbing in a window or forcing the door open.If this happens at three in the morning I'm thinking the worst.


to be honest with you that is a good point and in the case of dangerous or predatory animals i would concede an exception should be made. If you live in a rural american area, where there is a real possibility of bear or cougar attacks then you ought to have access to a rifle or shotgun of some sort. You cant really make the same argument for someone living in inner city NY or LA though.


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03 Feb 2013, 12:27 pm

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If you'd ever been to LA or NYC you'd know their predator issues are much worse.
I'd much rather walk down a country road through the woods un-armed at night (been there, done that) than to walk down a dark alley un-armed at night in NYC or LA (won't do that).


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03 Feb 2013, 1:17 pm

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If you'd ever been to LA or NYC you'd know their predator issues are much worse.
I'd much rather walk down a country road through the woods un-armed at night (been there, done that) than to walk down a dark alley un-armed at night in NYC or LA (won't do that).

LA is fairly unique in that it has predators that have 0, 2, 4, and sometimes 6, 8, or more legs that could use a firearm to defend against (I'm only half-joking about the bugs)! I've been to LA on many occasions, and you don't have to go far from the tourist areas before having a convoy of marines to travel with would be nice. There are notoriously bad areas of LA, and then there are parts that are fairly post-apocalyptic! Realistically, the cops cannot provide protection or even crime prevention in those areas- just cameras, chalk, and notepads after the fact.


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03 Feb 2013, 1:43 pm

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If you'd ever been to LA or NYC you'd know their predator issues are much worse.
I'd much rather walk down a country road through the woods un-armed at night (been there, done that) than to walk down a dark alley un-armed at night in NYC or LA (won't do that).

LA is fairly unique in that it has predators that have 0, 2, 4, and sometimes 6, 8, or more legs that could use a firearm to defend against (I'm only half-joking about the bugs)! I've been to LA on many occasions, and you don't have to go far from the tourist areas before having a convoy of marines to travel with would be nice. There are notoriously bad areas of LA, and then there are parts that are fairly post-apocalyptic! Realistically, the cops cannot provide protection or even crime prevention in those areas- just cameras, chalk, and notepads after the fact.


Yeah, I've found myself in a few of those LA neighborhoods from getting off the freeway in the wrong place. It was downright creepy.
If something happens to you in there it's quite possible no one will ever know what became of you.....


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03 Feb 2013, 1:44 pm

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More like I live in the real world.

No, you live in the US.

Also, what's wrong with dark alleys? Perfect for cutting time walking about town. :?



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03 Feb 2013, 2:36 pm

Try one in Little Rock,you'll be savin' time allright,time you could spend living. :lol:


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03 Feb 2013, 3:12 pm

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Try one in Little Rock,you'll be savin' time allright,time you could spend living. :lol:

Where is Little Rock? Oh yeah, America. Who knows who's aiming at the alley with a firearm?



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03 Feb 2013, 4:41 pm

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Raptor wrote:
More like I live in the real world.

No, you live in the US.

Also, what's wrong with dark alleys? Perfect for cutting time walking about town. :?
Perfect places to get jumped mugged at knifepoint shot or stabbed by thugs not to mention raped!You wouldnt want to walk through these neigborhoods without a gun! [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTQFtNLvcl8[/youtube] Some neighborhoods even cops avoid unless having a whole fleet to do occasional raids!


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03 Feb 2013, 5:00 pm

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Perfect places to get jumped mugged at knifepoint shot or stabbed by thugs not to mention raped!You wouldnt want to walk through these neigborhoods without a gun!


And that youtube clip was filmed in and about the city of....Detroit, USA.

Little Rock, USA.
Detroit USA.

Anyone else spot the pattern here?