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TimT wrote:
Welcome to the debate, Postperson. You said:
In Western countries, the organizations of demons are not coming across as "roaring lions" because there are too many exorcists available and Satan's work through Humanists is being too successful. However some teenage occultists will come out and do rash things, unaware of the risk.
When dealing with demons in non-Christians, I merely bind them to silence and impotence in situ. They can't come back because they are already there. They just can't help their host. Then a prayer for salvation for the host can get through and establish a divine foothold in his life.
If you cast demons out of a Christian and they come back, that is probably because some occult person or group is still sending them. Next step is to "pray for them that persecute you." I bind the demons on the occultists and their charmed toys. Then I pray for them. Then when you cast out the demons, they stay gone.
When I cast out demons, I send them to where the true Lord Jesus would send them, just to get them out of here. I don't know where they go, but I get no reports of the same infestation in someone else.
As for skafather84, he has said he is a Satanist; that he follows the head demon. Now he says that demons are fictional. One or both of these statements is false.
Postperson wrote:
Possession is real, banal and everyday. It's the person who leads you astray, the false friend who betrays you. It's not like in movies... 180 degree head spins and projectile vomiting. I've only seen that sort of thing, like overelastic bodies, grimacing faces and impossible movements very occasionally. Generally there is no outward sign of possession expect the content of the speech. Judas was possessed when he betrayed Jesus, he's not described as having any outward signs, it just says that a demon entered into him.
In Western countries, the organizations of demons are not coming across as "roaring lions" because there are too many exorcists available and Satan's work through Humanists is being too successful. However some teenage occultists will come out and do rash things, unaware of the risk.
Postperson wrote:
I can cast out demons, but they just come back in a few minutes or move to the next 'empty vessel'. I guess I don't have what Jesus did.
When dealing with demons in non-Christians, I merely bind them to silence and impotence in situ. They can't come back because they are already there. They just can't help their host. Then a prayer for salvation for the host can get through and establish a divine foothold in his life.
If you cast demons out of a Christian and they come back, that is probably because some occult person or group is still sending them. Next step is to "pray for them that persecute you." I bind the demons on the occultists and their charmed toys. Then I pray for them. Then when you cast out the demons, they stay gone.
When I cast out demons, I send them to where the true Lord Jesus would send them, just to get them out of here. I don't know where they go, but I get no reports of the same infestation in someone else.
As for skafather84, he has said he is a Satanist; that he follows the head demon. Now he says that demons are fictional. One or both of these statements is false.
People really believe in all this stuff?
05 Apr 2007, 1:20 pm
05 Apr 2007, 2:47 pm
parts wrote:
TimT wrote:
Welcome to the debate, Postperson. You said:
In Western countries, the organizations of demons are not coming across as "roaring lions" because there are too many exorcists available and Satan's work through Humanists is being too successful. However some teenage occultists will come out and do rash things, unaware of the risk.
When dealing with demons in non-Christians, I merely bind them to silence and impotence in situ. They can't come back because they are already there. They just can't help their host. Then a prayer for salvation for the host can get through and establish a divine foothold in his life.
If you cast demons out of a Christian and they come back, that is probably because some occult person or group is still sending them. Next step is to "pray for them that persecute you." I bind the demons on the occultists and their charmed toys. Then I pray for them. Then when you cast out the demons, they stay gone.
When I cast out demons, I send them to where the true Lord Jesus would send them, just to get them out of here. I don't know where they go, but I get no reports of the same infestation in someone else.
As for skafather84, he has said he is a Satanist; that he follows the head demon. Now he says that demons are fictional. One or both of these statements is false.
Postperson wrote:
Possession is real, banal and everyday. It's the person who leads you astray, the false friend who betrays you. It's not like in movies... 180 degree head spins and projectile vomiting. I've only seen that sort of thing, like overelastic bodies, grimacing faces and impossible movements very occasionally. Generally there is no outward sign of possession expect the content of the speech. Judas was possessed when he betrayed Jesus, he's not described as having any outward signs, it just says that a demon entered into him.
In Western countries, the organizations of demons are not coming across as "roaring lions" because there are too many exorcists available and Satan's work through Humanists is being too successful. However some teenage occultists will come out and do rash things, unaware of the risk.
Postperson wrote:
I can cast out demons, but they just come back in a few minutes or move to the next 'empty vessel'. I guess I don't have what Jesus did.
When dealing with demons in non-Christians, I merely bind them to silence and impotence in situ. They can't come back because they are already there. They just can't help their host. Then a prayer for salvation for the host can get through and establish a divine foothold in his life.
If you cast demons out of a Christian and they come back, that is probably because some occult person or group is still sending them. Next step is to "pray for them that persecute you." I bind the demons on the occultists and their charmed toys. Then I pray for them. Then when you cast out the demons, they stay gone.
When I cast out demons, I send them to where the true Lord Jesus would send them, just to get them out of here. I don't know where they go, but I get no reports of the same infestation in someone else.
As for skafather84, he has said he is a Satanist; that he follows the head demon. Now he says that demons are fictional. One or both of these statements is false.
People really believe in all this stuff?
that's one thing i always find entertaining is that these people can't differentiate anton levay satanism from some moron who is a christian cheering for the wrong side.
ignorance can be funny...kinda like a cat that chases a laser pointer because it doesn't know the laser is just light.
as to whether one or both of my statements are false, both are true. i'm a satanist following principles of anton levay's church and demons are fake. levay was kinda over the top....i'm more of the philosophical side, not the rubbish about magic. that's mostly just sillyness.
05 Apr 2007, 3:08 pm
TimT wrote:
Trying to explain the color orange to someone born blind would be as difficult.
Usually people who are candidates for exorcism come to me with:
1. strange medical symptoms that the doctors can't figure out and are not responsive to prayer
2. behaviors and feelings that they can't account for by anything that has happened to them.
3. sudden onset of panic attacks and nightmares
4. suddenly passing out and screaming when being prayed for
5. ghost and poltergeist phenomena suddenly starting to manifest in their dwelling
6. out-of-character obsessions and compulsions.
7. physical or mental ailments common to several generations of their family line
8. major pains that increase when near Christians or holy ground
Rotsa Ruck in resolving these problems with prayer or doctors! They are quickly resolved with exorcism.
Humanists are helpless against these things. Shamans and other occultists can only negotiate with the demons, trading one demon for a less obnoxious demon. But it is always Satan that gains in the transaction.
Usually people who are candidates for exorcism come to me with:
1. strange medical symptoms that the doctors can't figure out and are not responsive to prayer
2. behaviors and feelings that they can't account for by anything that has happened to them.
3. sudden onset of panic attacks and nightmares
4. suddenly passing out and screaming when being prayed for
5. ghost and poltergeist phenomena suddenly starting to manifest in their dwelling
6. out-of-character obsessions and compulsions.
7. physical or mental ailments common to several generations of their family line
8. major pains that increase when near Christians or holy ground
Rotsa Ruck in resolving these problems with prayer or doctors! They are quickly resolved with exorcism.
Humanists are helpless against these things. Shamans and other occultists can only negotiate with the demons, trading one demon for a less obnoxious demon. But it is always Satan that gains in the transaction.
So all these things are just demons that you can magically cure with some kind of divine help?
Are all bad things in the world the result of demons and or Satan?
I find that a lot of people I meet like this just use the demon story to blame someone else for their problems.
I guess science does not mean much you and the world was only created 6000 years ago ect ,ect.
Is logic unimportant too
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