A Different Approach On Gun Control

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Alexius848
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15 Oct 2013, 3:21 am

Teiraa wrote:

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I think all guns should be banned for all civilians, only the police and military should be allowed to carry guns.

Care to elaborate? And with all do respect, and I mean it, this is an Americans only convo because this is an American issue. Course I shouldn't be exclusive to foreigners because I'd appreciate them chiming in on the issue, though I'd like to know how making gun ownership legal only for military and police makes my life any easier.

Excuse me where does it say that non-Americans are not allowed to post in certain topics that is racism or at the very least discrimination and shall not be tolerated! Yes you should not be exclusive to foreigners because most of the people on this planet are not American in case you didn't know. By making the ownership of guns illegal for civilians would make your life a lot easier by allowing you to not worry about having your brains blown out if you upset a redneck, not being gunned down in a killing spree, not being picked off by a sniper, not being shot in a mugging and not having to worry about waking up with a burglar aiming a bazooka at your head.

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15 Oct 2013, 3:34 am

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Because it is proven to reduce gun violence.

Has it now? I assume you simply forgot to add the link to where it's been proven?

Alexius848 wrote:

Guns are designed to kill people

You're a gun designer? Me too! You're design philosophy is a bit myopic though, I design guns for hunting and target shooting all the time, and even the ones I do design for combat use aren't designed to kill per se, just project force.

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so civilians should not be allowed to own or use them because civilians are not suppose/allowed to kill people.

Sure we are, we're allowed to kill people who are trying to do us harm, and here in America we use guns to protect ourselves hundreds of thousands, if not millions of times a year. I suppose you Aussies are rather more fond of your criminals than we are, for the obvious reason... :lol:

I did not forget the link because I didn't think of putting a link their because I am right.

So here are some links.

http://guncontrol.org.au/

http://www.bradycampaign.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control

That should be enough links to convince you.

Guns are designed for killing. Whether it be humans or animals their main purpose is to kill or maim, though mostly kill. A gun designed for shooting targets already exists, it's called a paintball gun please get one their not as dangerous as real guns which shoot bullets and can kill.

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15 Oct 2013, 3:49 am

Alexius848 wrote:

I did not forget the link because I didn't think of putting a link their because I am right.

Don't change kid, you'll go far here with that attitude.

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So here are some links.

http://guncontrol.org.au/

http://www.bradycampaign.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control

That should be enough links to convince you.

I see two gun control sites, not even anything specific like stats, just links to them, and Wikipedia... I recently absolutely ripped someone for a much less feeble effort than that, and it's only your youth that's staying my hand now. Anyone can post a list of links to other people saying things they agree with, backing their opinions up with facts and argumentation is another matter entirely. Can you do that, or are you just going to link me to the same garbage I've been swatting aside for the last six years?

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Guns are designed for killing. Whether it be humans or animals their main purpose is to kill or maim, though mostly kill. A gun designed for shooting targets already exists, it's called a paintball gun please get one their not as dangerous as real guns which shoot bullets and can kill.

Did you miss the part where I told you that I design guns? I went to school for it, have a degree and everything. I also own several dozen of them, carry one every day, shoot regularly, and generally know a lot about them. What do you know about them that I don't?

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15 Oct 2013, 4:03 am

Alexius848 wrote:

sliqua-jcooter wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

I think all guns should be banned for all civilians, only the police and military should be allowed to carry guns.

Why?

Because it is proven to reduce gun violence. Guns are designed to kill people so civilians should not be allowed to own or use them because civilians are not suppose/allowed to kill people.

So, you're telling me that there's cold, solid, conclusive evidence that gun control actually works? Try again, and this time without the aide of a partisan group.

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15 Oct 2013, 4:08 am

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(Sigh) Son, does your mom know you're home? Seriously, troll elsewhere, this is not only man talk, but AMERICAN man talk. Your country has low gun related homicide, I'm happy for ya, but that has nothing to do with GC laws. I think, to my knowledge at least, the educational system there is incredibly efficient. So, yeah.....

Thats a bit much. I request you remove that from your post.

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15 Oct 2013, 4:15 am

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

sliqua-jcooter wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

I think all guns should be banned for all civilians, only the police and military should be allowed to carry guns.

Why?

Because it is proven to reduce gun violence. Guns are designed to kill people so civilians should not be allowed to own or use them because civilians are not suppose/allowed to kill people.

Teiraa, please try not to cast aspersions on the manliness of people or countries. Firstly, it could easily be construed as a personal attack, and secondly, it just makes you look like you can't argue using logic.

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15 Oct 2013, 4:47 am

Alexius848 wrote:

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

I think all guns should be banned for all civilians, only the police and military should be allowed to carry guns.

If you're not American, then how do you know that's what it's like here in America?

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15 Oct 2013, 4:56 am

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

I think all guns should be banned for all civilians, only the police and military should be allowed to carry guns.

If you're not American, then how do you know that's what it's like here in America?

I'm not American and I'm pretty sure you breath air in America, but that’s just a wild guess because people who are not American are inferior and stupid and are definitely not men so I wouldn’t know. Oh and Teiraa have you ever heard of television, movies, newspapers and the internet just wondering because what your using now is the called internet and you can research things using it.

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15 Oct 2013, 5:22 am

Dox47 wrote:

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That should be enough links to convince you.

Alexius848 wrote:

You criticize me for the links but those where the only ones I could find all the other links were ones about how banning guns would lead to banning scissors, knifes and humans and it would be silly to include one of those links when the author is clearly silly.

Define ripped please have you literally ripped someone or was that a joke because:

Definition of rip:

Quote:

to tear, split, or open (something) quickly or violently.

I never said I know things about guns that you don't I merely said that guns are designed to kill people and animals but according to you their not designed to kill, for example you may be a bed maker you could say that you make beds to throw off cliffs, you would then say that beds are not designed to sleep on because you don't sleep on beds or you think that beds are better used to be thrown off cliffs, but in the end you didn't invent the bed so you can't and have no right to say what the bed was originally designed for.

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15 Oct 2013, 5:27 am

Alexius848 wrote:

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

I think all guns should be banned for all civilians, only the police and military should be allowed to carry guns.

If you're not American, then how do you know that's what it's like here in America?

Yeah, but I don't use lobby groups, or Wikipedia, as sources because they're polarized, they'll tilt their research in any direction they so choose. I use FBI stats and CDC info, not what a lobby group thinks.

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15 Oct 2013, 5:29 am

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

I think all guns should be banned for all civilians, only the police and military should be allowed to carry guns.

If you're not American, then how do you know that's what it's like here in America?

Yeah, but I don't use incorrect statistics or information which goes against the point I'm trying to make.

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15 Oct 2013, 5:33 am

Alexius848 wrote:

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

I think all guns should be banned for all civilians, only the police and military should be allowed to carry guns.

If you're not American, then how do you know that's what it's like here in America?

Yeah, but I don't use incorrect statistics or information which goes against the point I'm trying to make.

Precisely, you use cherry-picked stats that don't scream that these studies remain inconclusive and guns alone aren't the cause of crime.

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15 Oct 2013, 5:35 am

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

I think all guns should be banned for all civilians, only the police and military should be allowed to carry guns.

If you're not American, then how do you know that's what it's like here in America?

Yeah, but I don't use incorrect statistics or information which goes against the point I'm trying to make.

Precisely, you use cherry-picked stats that don't scream that these studies remain inconclusive and guns alone aren't the cause of crime.

I never said guns alone are the cause of crime that’s what you say I said. But at least I don't think more guns equals less crime.

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15 Oct 2013, 5:49 am

Alexius848 wrote:

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

I think all guns should be banned for all civilians, only the police and military should be allowed to carry guns.

If you're not American, then how do you know that's what it's like here in America?

Yeah, but I don't use incorrect statistics or information which goes against the point I'm trying to make.

Precisely, you use cherry-picked stats that don't scream that these studies remain inconclusive and guns alone aren't the cause of crime.

I never said guns alone are the cause of crime that’s what you say I said. But at least I don't think more guns equals less crime.

Have a nasty of putting words in my mouth, eh? I didn't say more guns=less crime, I'm more or less trying convey that the CDC and FBI stated, simply, that it depends on what region of the US you're from. Chicago, for example, could CERTAINLY use less guns, but you don't run into the same problem in other cities and it only seems to be making the problem worse. A small town in Georgia requires people to own firearms and saw a moderate decrease in crime, where, in the Dakotas, they didn't do much in the way of tweaking gun laws, crime neither rose or fell. Bottom line, it's culture and traditions in combination with gun laws of the area.

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15 Oct 2013, 5:57 am

Teiraa and Alexius848 - please learn to use the "Post Reply" button instead of using "Quote" to pointlessly fill the screen with repeated re-quotes of your posts here.

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15 Oct 2013, 7:48 am

Alexius848 wrote:

Teiraa wrote:

Alexius848 wrote:

I think all guns should be banned for all civilians, only the police and military should be allowed to carry guns.

Excuse me where does it say that non-Americans are not allowed to post in certain topics that is racism or at the very least discrimination and shall not be tolerated!

The gunnuts don't like foreigners telling them about how great life is without guns, and not having to worry about someone shooting you all the time. They just want to be left alone to live in their little fantasy world, where guns solve all problems.

They are kind of like this guy: 62-Year-Old With Gun Only One Standing Between Nation And Full-Scale Government Takeover

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