Is it ok to believe in God......

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Sorry Goddard I know English is not your first language but you are simply not making sense, You state that it is only humans which are not perfect, everything else is. You cannot say that the planet is perfect and they say that it has flaws and these flaws are necessary to define its perfection.

And Ballerina like abilities.

I went back through some of his posts (masochistic I know) and found adhogday provided a link proving his claims, this "proof" is more or less the same "evidence" he provides here, outlandish claims with absolutely no independent supporting evidence.

@goddard why is it arrogant of people atheist or otherwise to ask for evidence, or to point out that evidence points away from certain claims. The arrogance lies not with the questioner but rather with the person making the claims demanding that whatever the evidence, their claims should not be checked for credibility, instead they should be accepted and respected at face value.

I do not understand why you reaffirme the fact that english is not my mother tongue and what it have with the matter...
I not to say it, you who understand these way, sorry.
To exist the perfection is necessary before there is a imperfection. Without comparisons, don't there the opposite polos. To you know what is and the good action is necessary know the bad actions. Are mirrors, Ying Yang, right left etc
Obviously that there a continuum among the polos, but is basicaly it.
The fact the life is very perfect, paraphrasing the ''rock bad boy'' Malcolm of Jurassik Park movie
Lifes find a way

Well..I don't see any specific claims of what you don't find evidence for either..Please enlighten me friend..as there is no way you likely looked through all close to 12 thousand pictures of evidence..nor all 6 million plus words..on the other hand I also have a near photographic memory...so put you words where your FALSE CLAIMs are...

And yeah...Goddard already clearly said he was from another country..It appears that some of you guys are just here to be bullies against other people you don't have to face in person..WHO YOU PERCEIVE AS DIFFERENT FROM YOU...as I guarantee you if you met me in person you would not give me anything but respect..or if you are not in your 'RIGHT' mind as everyone else in real life certainly gives me respect ..even.. special forces at the military base I work out at....

And no that is certainly not a threat..IT IS JUST THE TRUTH..AS EVERYTHING ELSE I HAVE STATED HERE....

AND YEAH THese ARE JUST WORDS ON A SCREEN..as I AM serene as a still LAKE still writing them....

Actually, if we were to have a similar conversation in real life, I'd probably be too distracted trying not to explode with laughter/chuckles at the stuff you say.

And no, you can't count this as bullying, as this is online and the dynamics should be treated differently and judged by more relaxed standards. As long as I am not bashing you with verbal assaults and calling you all sorts of names and spilling your personal laundry, I should not be counted as bullying you.

Spilling laundry does not sound like a proper idiom, but hopefully, you get the picture.

No worries Goddard you make perfect sense to me..but I AM hyperlexic so I have no problem understanding other forms of language..and an easy time decoding almost any cryptic language puzzle..

But understanding your language requires no special skills at all..for me...as you use simple metaphors is all..and yeah many people on the spectrum cannot understand metaphors..well.. so IT will likely be hard for people to understand you...here..but I don't care 'cause I like metaphors..and there is no rule against using them here..or any other variation of reciprocal social communication..as this site is a frigging site for people who have a reciprocal social communication disorder...

Wonders never cease in hypocrisy....

Same thing happens to another poster by the name of Inventor here..he is probably one of the most intelligent members here..but some people say he makes no sense either..and yeah he makes complete sense to me..too...

The problem with some atheists is their worse nightmare is we are right that there is a higher power in this world that science cannot measure..and yeah as you know we are right..there is no doubt about th@@ll...

WHEN THIS fear happens IT becomes obvious as ALL some of 'them' CAN DO..is resort to personal attacks...to break their fear..in anyway possible...

Unless a person never experiences IT..which yeah..appears to be the case here..at times..and no it's not their fault as IT IS SIMPLE..they know not what they do...and yeah...some people are not lucky to perceive GOD and no..GOD is not fair...about this..as GOD IS ONLY ENERGY ANYWAY..without a dam human personality...so all we can do is try to bring other people up to this light of power that IS GOD....

But the thing is this higher power makes a person invincible per fearless haha...and hehe...

So there is never anything to lose in at least attempting to show the way to the LIGHT THAT IS GOD..THAT IS ALL

HAHA..IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BULLY ME FRIEND AS I AM FEARLESS..

The bullying is making fun of Goddard's communication...

Most people on the spectrum have some type of learning disorder anyway..If it not an issue understanding metaphors...

And no I am just writing my only little story here friend..IN real life I am nothing like this...

My comment was not directed at you anyway..so your choice to respond here..not mine...

English is my first language so let me see if I can help you understand his metaphor friend..

This is a common metaphor in philosophy..Goddard is not inventing the wheel here...

It is commonly understood that only humans create the illusion of imperfections..as only humans invent things like evil and good..Death is perfect and so is destruction..and so is birth defects and so is the milky way..

Even if It isn't a perfect circle or a perfect square...

GOD does not play by silly human animal rules..

GOD iS PERFECT..AS GOD IS ALL AND YOUR MASTER...

THERE IS NO WAY TO ESCAPE GOD MY FRIEND UNTIL YOUR LAST DYING BREATH...WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND FINALLY WHAT GOD IS..

BEEN THERE DONE..THAT...TRUST ME YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THE REAL FACE OF GOD..AS YOU WILL SEE THE TERROR YOU CANNOT IMAGINE WITHOUT FAITH..AND SINCE YOU DO NOT HAVE FAITH YOU WILL SEE THAT TERROR...OF BEYOND....

OK..NOW that's just my opinion..but you WILL NOT be around to tell me if I was right..will you?

Well like I said..been there done that...

And no i cannot prove that one...as IT IS BEYOND ANY NIGHTMARE YOU HAVE SEEN ON TV...in the scariest movie possible to imagine...as IT IS beyond scary....terror..depression...all that stuff..IT IS THE ABYSS OF HELL...COMPLETELY DEVOID OF GOD....but maybe you are already there..I have no way of knowing..do I?

Haha..i love all my laundry even the dirtiest parts..want to see IT..I'll show ya..I got links to that too..hehe..

Like I said you are not bullying me..and there is nothing possible you could say to bully me...

The only person ever who could really bully me was me..but haha..I cannot even do that now..either....

As I know I AM awesome..It is as simple as that..people tell me all the time..in real life...

And YES I tell them I AM NOT awesome but they insist..so IT has to be true..huH?

Goddard so that we don't keep going in circles please could you explain what you mean by your statement below. It appears to me that you are saying ID makes sense because everything on the planet is perfect with the exception of humans

With regard to this



I perceive that you think I am criticising you for this, no I am not, I am simply saying that I understand that English is difficult for you and I am acknowledging that your full intent or meaning may have been lost in translation.

Aghoday,
thanks for your help, but i'm already accustomed with this type of gratuitous provocation. For example, when i commenting on one Hbd site often my opponents were using these dirty tactics to portray me as a stupid person who can not write, type
'' Look you guys, do not give credence to what he writes, is an illiterate''
But do not worry, they do this, the opposite happen, prove to others that they can not argue more, end the arguments, insults begin. It's called desperation.

More one time, if you think it, think wrong because i don't to say it. You noticed that I put an emoticon, making it clear that my comparison was based on a joke.
Of course, when I say that everything is perfect, I am also suggesting that humans fall into it. Life itself is perfect, is something almost inexplicable why it exists, even more complex life. The mystery of our existence is something perfect. If the Earth were a few millimeters from its current position, she probably would be too hot or too cold or it could have a climate with sudden temperature changes during the day.
So far I have written in his own hand, without translation google translator. Yes, English is a language a little complicated, much less that his half-sisters Germanic but rather that their other half-Latin sisters. I still can not write English, but a Portuguese Anglicized.
Well you leave this impression.

Well..Kudos to you Dent Arthur Dent..that was a very proper and kind clarification as to what you meant by 'you make no sense'..as he only made no sense to you..and made perfect sense to me..as some people understand these metaphors completely and some people do not understand them at all...

And I apologize..for reading your intent incorrectly too..but I do not like to see people oppressed no matter who they are and there is a long record of me defending anyone on this site that comes close to looking like they are being oppressed by others for their communication styles..as again Autism is a reciprocal communication disorder..which makes validation and clarification of communication..paramount in effective communication...

I have clearly stated many times...that my use of metaphors and poetic style free verse 'beat' poetry is just to expose people here to another way of metaphorical communication to potentially take them out of the 'box' of literal..rigid..black and white thinking...

And so I do this..again and again..and yeah It helps some people and irritates other people...but It is very simple to ignore anyone on this site..and there is even computer code that you can use in the Wrong Planet Administration discussion area to make any person's comments disappear if IT is too uncomfortable to go to the trouble of ignoring them...

So there is no need for any personal attacks here if someone is not comfortable with the opinions of others..but as long as you say nothing personally offensive about people I care about you can bring on the personal attacks to me if you like..as I am titanium..in effect...and with that said here is a little mood music for you...to express what I am saying in more emotional language than I am capable of..if you will...

Oh..and here is the video in reverse..and no this is not a planned attempt to f*** with people's mind by the recording artist and studio that produced this song...IT is what IT is...JEsus..Moses..Buddha..he cared for you..broke his neck..if only you knew It.. etc.. and the same voice and 'speaking in tongues' sounding language in Christina Perri's Jar of Hearts video..with these words in that song..clearly understood by me..but who knows maybe not for you..as we all perceive our Universes differently..as understood by modern science....

So just for even measure I will include that if you so choose to listen to them..and if not other people might be interested...as if I can not prove a higher power to you in the proof that is my life..the proof is in these songs too..as I am thinking you will probably dismiss as a coincidence and nothing more..if you really take the time to listen to them both in both ways..forward and reverse....

But IT IS what IT IS..and no again..there is no masking done in these songs..for effect...AT ALL..

And when a person sings the spirit can flow in sacred vowels when one connects with the ONE regardless of words to describe their ideas about the GOD that IS ALL that exists...

And first I'll give a little example of me doing this just a few days ago..in a solo singing..that I have never attempted before in public..two songs that were chosen for me that I had no practice singing...AT ALL..and did not even know the words..until I saw them to sing them....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5viqXAU6y4[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peodrS9MaZA[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRfuAukYTKg[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRzSjEpRtgk[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v_4O44sfjM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG5U5h6DjOY[/youtube]

Last edited by aghogday on 22 Oct 2013, 3:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Define "God"

I consider myself a non-deist. I believe that there are likely layers of reality beyond the matter/energy we currently are able to measure. It is quite possible that raw consciousness is a fundamental thing underlying everything. BUT I do not believe in a single all-governing deity similar to what is described in monotheistic religions.

I happen to agree a lot with Amit Goswami, a hindu physicist who did a documentary "The Quantum Activist".

But it is ok to believe whatever you want.
The imaginary universe is just as real as the physical one.

You just defined it friend..the people who have stolen the idea of GOD and made IT INTO a personality instead of a force are 'thieves' who have made the 'CHRIST' to use another metaphor that is originally expressed by the historical Jesus to mean the force of connection of ALL into a flesh and blood human being..in other words..these folks that do this are the TRUE ANTI-CHRIST in TOTAL EFFECT OF THE ALL OF CONNECTION THAT IS ALL....

AND YES IT IS DEFINITELY OK TO BELIEVE WHAT AN INDIVIDUAL WANTS...TRUE ENLIGHTENMENT CAN ONLY BE GAINED THROUGH THE UNIVERSES OF THE PERCEPTIONS OF EACH one of the ONE..IF one wills to understand thIS..IS...AS GOD..OR WHATEVER CONSTRUCT ONE MAY USE TO DESCRIBE THIS IS THAT IS..THE FORCE OF ALL...