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MingyJongo75
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20 Dec 2013, 2:46 pm

I had this idea of an ideal world for a while now:

A world where anyone can throw their lives away without ever being convinced otherwise from their loved ones. People who want to live should be able to live and those who want to die should be able to die.

No funerals or mourning from loved ones.

A world where there is, for sure, no afterlife. When a person dies, they fade into non-existantance as they were before they were born. I seriously don't understand why people don't want to disappear when they die. If you don't exist, you cannot feel or want, thus you have nothing to nor have the capacity to fear. The whole afterlife thing just seems to stink of people's fear of actually dying anyway.

A world where people base their connections with their loved ones with the time they have rather than a desperate hope that they will be together forever.

A world where people actually know the consequences of immortality rather than beg the void for it: potential eternal suffering, having the world change whether you want it to or not while you remain the same, etc.

A world where life and death are treated equal instead of forcing everyone to embrace life's uneven nature.

A world where people's lives generally do not follow a pattern based on idealized milestones. All those inspirations quotes and acts involving the "future" and/or your "individual purpose" just sicken me.

Does anyone else share the sentiment?



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20 Dec 2013, 3:07 pm

i would prefer a world where the grim reaper was something to be scorned and defied rather than glibly embraced as a unavoidable consequence of life.

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20 Dec 2013, 6:18 pm

MingyJongo75 wrote:
Does anyone else share the sentiment?


Some of it. I agree that death should not be such a big deal and there should not be an automatic presumption that living is better than not living. I also agree that there is nothing scary about not existing, for exactly the reason you gave, and it surprises me that more people don't understand this. (Of course, whether or not there is, in fact an afterlife, has nothing to do with whether we wish for it or not.)

I don't think it's realistic to expect people to just let go of their loved ones without any problems. If they're "loved" ones then, almost by definition, they would be "missed" ones. Also, I don't see how your last sentence fits in with the rest of the post. Planning for the future and having an individual purpose are both good things.


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21 Dec 2013, 5:17 am

thomas81 wrote:
i would prefer a world where the grim reaper was something to be scorned and defied rather than glibly embraced as a unavoidable consequence of life.



Leave it to Thomas81 to oppose the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

Entropy Increases. Death is inevitable. The main thing is to accept what must be with dignity and not blub.

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21 Dec 2013, 5:44 am

Meh, when the grim reaper arrives for me I'm going to challenge him to a game of chess. :P


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21 Dec 2013, 11:35 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR5Z4n1TdSI[/youtube]



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21 Dec 2013, 1:04 pm

TallyMan wrote:
Meh, when the grim reaper arrives for me I'm going to challenge him to a game of chess. :P

He is fond of chess.I hope that you win.
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21 Dec 2013, 1:15 pm

/\ I recommend Battleship instead. Not Death's strongest suit.

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21 Dec 2013, 1:35 pm

^ Hehe, I remember that sketch.


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21 Dec 2013, 2:26 pm

Awesome.I ruled at Battleship.I'm gonna kick Death's ass.


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21 Dec 2013, 2:56 pm

Those are both great movies. Bill & Ted probably have the edge with me... :wink:

@ the OP,

You should read up on Stoic philosophy.

This pretty much sums up my attitude towards death:

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You are a little soul carrying about a corpse, as Epictetus used to say.
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Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back.

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Death is a release from the impressions of the senses, and from desires that make us their puppets, and from the vagaries of the mind, and from the hard service of the flesh.

― Marcus Aurelius, Meditations


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