Hungary to be actively monitored by the Council of Europe

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What's going on in Hungary is extremely worrying - i.e. the government's stripping away of democratic powers, the powerful nature of the neo-fascist Jobbik and the increasingly serious and potentially explosive nature of antisemitism in the country. It seems like a very scary situation all round.

Last edited by Tequila on 30 Apr 2013, 6:21 am, edited 1 time in total.

Here's another recent article on antisemitism in Hungary:

Hungary's problems stem considerably wider than a prevalent hatred of Jews and other minorities. What Orbán's government is doing should worry any freedom-loving democrat.

Well, it seems like the EU has some good qualities (although more bad ones). What's going on in Hungary is extremely worrying. And it's really ironic too, because fascists are usualy radical nationalists. And these hungarian nazis are so f***ing dumb that they don't realize that Germany invaded Hungary in the 2nd world war, with all the devastating consequences it had.

In Portugal there are a handful of nazis. And that is really, really dumb. Acording to nazi principles, because we have a darker skin color, we should be erradicated.

They have some really, really bizarre notions of Hungarian history though. They want a Hungarian-Turkic empire in Europe.

And this country is at the heart of the EU.

The EU is a toothless tiger when it really matters. Frankly, the EU is built on lies and it can go to hell.

Are you serious?! Shouldn't these people be in a mental institution?

True. I'm in favor of european countries actively acting together in promoting peace and human rights in the continent. Other than that, I don't give a crap about the EU. It was formed without a democratic scrutiny and that is unacceptable.

Germany is on the rise again. I'm afraid of what might happen.

As I understand it, most Europeans would have become an underclass serving the Aryan race, doing the menial tasks below anyone with blond hair... or the Japanese... as well as serving as cannon fodder in the never ending quest to conquer America.

I heard that the Hungarians built the cannons the Turks used to conquer Constantinople.

Something to do with that I presume?

Uhm, there must be a misunderstanding here... Hungary was occupied by the Ottoman Empire, and it was part of the Ottoman Empire for ~150 years.
(I come from Hungary, so I know the history of Hungary pretty well.)

Please don't compare this with people with actual mental disorders. It's not fair to the people with mental disorders.

This hearkens back to when the Hungarians handed over the vast majority of their Jewish population (wasn't it like 90%) to the SS.

As a visible minority myself, I don't see anything particularly scary in the first article you linked to, and I'm afraid I can't take your complaints about antisemitism all that seriously. I'm sure if you were to hear a news story about how the Council of Europe was monitoring some European country on account of the antipathy towards Islam being encouraged by some of its politicians, you would start complaining about how these unelected transnational bodies should keep their noses out of the business of sovereign states.

I've personally observed mild tribalism from all sorts of people, white, black and brown, but I get kind of tired of hearing the word antisemitism, to be honest. The implication behind it is that racism against Jews is so much worse than racism against any other group.



I imagine Tequila, who is anti-EU and anti-UN, is just fine with the idea of sovereign states having to obtain legitimacy from international bodies when those international bodies have names like 'World Jewish Congress'.

Two more paragraphs from the Harry's Place article:



I just have to laugh at this. You know, the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee estimates that there are 120,000 Jews in Hungary. But when a non-Jewish politician in Hungary simply repeats that number, the author wants us to view this as a shocking reflection of that country's lack of democracy.

By the way, and as the author virtually admits, the state of Israel assumes the right to decide who is a Jew and who is not (to a far greater extent than Hungary does), but the author clearly has no problem with that. (Of course, the author does not go into detail regarding Israel's methods, eg, DNA testing of new immigrants for racial purity - if he did, even the most gullible of readers might start to ask questions.)



Can I just add that 'freedom-loving democrat' sounds like the sort of thing George W Bush might have called himself while planning one of his military adventures.

Hungarys not about to be punished for this is it:-

"According to a report on the German-language website “National Journal,” Orbán has now moved to unseat the usurers from their throne. The popular, nationalistic prime minister told the IMF that Hungary neither wants nor needs further “assistance” from that proxy of the Rothschild-owned Federal Reserve Bank. No longer will Hungarians be forced to pay usurious interest to private, unaccountable central bankers.

Instead, the Hungarian government has assumed sovereignty over its own currency and now issues money debt free, as it is needed. The results have been nothing short of remarkable. The nation’s economy, formerly staggering under deep indebtedness, has recovered rapidly and by means not seen since National Socialist Germany."

I wonder how Iceland will be demonised for the same?.

I am from Hungary! I was adopted from there

At least the pan-European institutions are working how they are supposed to. For many countries, NATO, the Council in Europe, and others are an excellent buffer between democracy with peace or autocracy with strife.