I am tired of this trendy smashing of the weak

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Quite well and quite personally, actually. I had that attitude in grade school through my early 20s. I hated being in special ed, I hated the IEPs, and I hated all that other stuff. I want to just go to school like a normal pupil, not as some ret*d. This worked until my mid-20s, when I began running into a wall. I can still work and all that, but a lot of the difficulties I ran into in my mid- to late 20s have really humbled me and caused me to take a closer look at my impairments and to see the importance of a support network.

Both impaired and disabled people should not give up on our dreams, however, much we can, but we should realize the importance of support in enabling us to realize those dreams.

Are you saying that other people on welfare are unfairly getting more money than you OR that it's unfair that people who work for a living are reaping the benefits of earning an income?

I started this discussion to focus on the hatred towards those who cannot work to provide for themselves.
I actually did my very best at trying to establish some sort of reconciliation between those who wanted tax cuts and those who wants welfare.

Instead, it turns out we have to discuss the most basic of all things, wether or not the State should grant benefits to those who are so obviously ill they cannot take care of themselves.
Not even that can we agree on!! !

Damn, I hate humanity now!

It's not that I want to assert my position at any cost. But I do have my limits, and that limit has been crossed now!

When there are people who won't even pay taxes to support those who are paralyzed from the neck down or ONLY want those who are paralyzed from the neck down to recieve benefits,
my limit has been crossed to what I want to discuss!

This is the most absurd, ideological s**t that humanity has ever come up with: Total anarchistic libertarian economics.

People are so focused on their own damn money that they become so selfish as to say they won't pay taxes to weakest members of society.
It's not that I am suggesting enforcing some sort of Social Conscription where YOU have to wipe the *** of the old folks at the nursery home. What I suggest is that if you earn money,
you pay a subscription of being a member of society, to finance the welfare state.

But no, no, that's unfair, robbery and slavery and all sorts of irrelevant talk....

I think we should all get a little more familiar with wiping the asses of our loved ones. I know I'd rather take care of my Mom than put her into a nursing home. They can be pretty brutal. If we all started taking care of our families instead of moving away and separating there would be much less burden on the health care system, which I think is already breaking down.

People used to care more for their elderly family.In rural areas it was not unsusual for the older folks to be home being cared for by family,the same with some with younger people with severe developmental disorders.This was pretty common when I was young,I think maybe this changed when both family members started working to make ends meet, then nobody would be at home to care for them.At one time it was unthinkable to put your elderly parents in a home,that was for the unfortunates who had no family.

This thread gets more and more wierd.

I wrote about how being weak is no excuse of not being exposed to all sorts of evilness, being subject to smashing and bashing while laying down, according to some people.
I then wrote that it was all down to people's resentment of paying taxes, refering to the fact that I am not calling for people to wipe the butts of the old folks in nusery homes, only that
we should tax people to maintain a welfare society to avoid this evilness (smashing/bashing of those lying down).

Then the thread takes a turn in the direction of nusery homes versus family care, thus completely ignoring my original very obvious intend with my post...

Your point is not penetrating my thick head. Are you saying that the disabled are subject to more "evil" than neurotypicals? If so, I'm not sure I agree with this. Everybody faces evil in their lives.

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I am an anarchist and I am not in favor of "small" government (the state striped down to its primary role; enforcing private property). Governments like this in the real world are big and brutal police states. Just look at Singapore or China.

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Not neccessarily, that is not how I would put it. The disabled (physical as well as mental) as a group, is being shunned at for being costly to society.

That thing, being shunned at, is evil, because they are not in a position where they could do something else.

As you see earlier in my thread, a very good example came up from Raptor: "Ever tried NOT being weak?"
Well, if I could do otherwise, I would. My threads about the Conscription and Welfare (this thread) are all my attempts at being strong in terms of speaking out against this outrageous unfairness to people like me, but also people who suffers physical illnesses, as well as those who suffers only unemployment. But Raptor is not a lone. There is about 6-7 billion people like him.

You are posting on an Autism forum and you are complaining about weirdness?

So you feel shunned by society because of your disability which you are equating with weakness? Weakness being that one is too costly to be viable?
I think you are putting too much importance on what people think of you. If you think, yourself, that you can do better than do so. If not, then make the best of what you have. If people are shunning you, try to figure out why. Sometimes it comes down to appearance. I find that when I am all disheveled people treat me differently. Sometimes it's just the effort that counts.
Again, though (and it's not because I don't believe in helping others,) I don't think social assistance should be assumed.

You started a discussion, and you are shocked -- shocked! -- to learn that some people actually disagree with you! Perhaps you need to find a different Internet.

By the way, until the Progressive Era, just over a century ago, very few people anywhere thought that the State ought to be responsible for supporting the needy. So if you hate humanity now, do you have an even stronger loathing for the people of the past?

As a matter of fact, I do.

Yes, we Raptors are not a force to be taken lgithly.
All of them are my equals in insensitivity and austerity.
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As I understand, the disabled, especially disabled children and women, are subject to much higher rates of sexual abuse. They are also much more vulnerable to unfavorable changes in their environment.

It was raptor who initially brought up discussion of weakness in this thread. Apparently, it's Raptor's view that anyone who advocates for assistance for the needy is one of the needy, and nothing more than a weak whiner.