Why are so many ppl with Aspergers non-believers?

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I guess I never thought about it like that. Being an NT, at some point growing up, I realized that rarely do these grand "supernatural" events occur in modern life. I think it also may have been more necessary back when these events (the ones depicted in the bible) occurred. In Christianity, after the life and death of Christ, your faith is what keeps you going. No more healing a blind man or the casting out of demons and so on. But, when you read (and sorry no I don't remember book, chapter and verse), it says something to the effect of, "blessed are those that believe but have not seen". It's where ever in the Bible when Jesus has risen from the dead and come back to show his followers and he's basically telling them, after one of the men has felt the holes in his hands, well yes of course you all believe now because you've SEEN all if this with your own eyes. But, what about those ppl that down the road believe every bit as much and have none of this "proof".

Looking (of trying to look) at this concept from the eyes of an Aspie, I guess I can see how, if you struggle with understanding the grey shaded areas of day to day life that is right in front of you, the concept of believing in something that you can't put any real physical proof too would be quite difficult. But, I really do know that I've personally experience things (I wouldn't say "supernatural" things per se no bushes on fire that don't actually burn type experiences) that, in my opinion and experience, could not have been possible or happened (or not happened for that matter) without a miracle. But, that's for another discussion. I'm not trying to convert anyone here lol. Just trying to understand my daughter a bit better and do right by here so thanks for this perspective.

While I really appreciate your response, you lost me at "imbibe". So unless that was a typo (in which case I'll feel REALLY dumb, I'm afraid I don't really get your reply. But, it is an awesome feeling (as a NT parent raising a child ppl assume isn't as "good" or as smart as other children) to have the honor of being made to feel dumb by an autistic lol.

See, that's what really concerns me with my daughter. I don't want her to resent me in any way for imposing religious beliefs on her. Don't get me wrong, I don't go to church every Sunday and Wednesday and we don't even pray every night. I'm not "that" kind of Christian. I believe in God. I believe his son Jesus was here on earth and died for the sins of all man so that if we ask and believe, we will have eternal life in Heaven! No where in that statement is there room to judge others (not LBGTs, not ANYONE), or that I have the right to even SAY that someone will go to hell. I hate that some ppl have had ppl in their lives that they should be able to trust make the question their own faith (because of their actions).

I can't agree more!! Being Christian does not always equal having morals. I further understand what you're saying about the moment when you realized that it's like there was really only one god being referred to by many names. I would never shove anything down my kids throat because, for one my relationship with her father showed me that with Aspie's the more you push sometimes, the harder they push away. I swear it really feels like my fat butt is on a tight rope trying to balance a unicycle without the long stick thing most days.

Thank you for some very straight forward and sound GOOD advice!

^ couldn't have said it any better. I think this is the one fundamental thing that so many Christians forget and it's the very thing that sends ppl who might otherwise be believers screaming and running away from ANY religion. But, the very basis of what Jesus (in my personal opinion of course) was trying to get across was to NOT do this very thing. DO NOT judge others hastily lest ye be judged the same!! !!

Do you think if you hadn't been made to feel like you had another choice you may have continued to be a Christian just not in the Catholic Church? I personally am a "non-denominational" Christian.

Because they're smart.

While I may disagree with a few of the things you said (and no I'm not about to list the reason because as I stated earlier, I'm not trying to convert anyone here today or ever for that matter and even if I did want to try, just based on some of the posts, you guys would verbally chew me up and spit me out I'm sure. I've never in my life felt as inferior to another person as I do reading posts from ppl with ASD here on Wrong Planet lol. I've always felt I was pretty intelligent and my NT friends and family have always told me how "smart" they feel I am. Well they'd have never thought that if they'd met any one of you guys first!!) but, I love the way you worded your view and your very summed up version of the events as stated in the Christian Bible. Thank you for your response!

I think you're very right in that most MOST ppl read the bible to believe not prove it wrong. But, from my own reading and interpretation of the Bible (and no I would not like to go toe to toe with you EVER in a bible verse competition lol), being a "good" person is what makes you a "Christian" and certainly isn't what gets you to Heaven. However, believing in the teachings that Jesus wanted us to learn, once you become "born again" it makes you want to be a better person, a more understanding person, a morally responsible person.

I don't believe that. It makes you follow anachronistic patriarchal teachings that don't apply to modern life. The church is a highly social venture. If aspies don't buy into it, it's because they don't relate to the social aspects of religion anyway. They may not care what other people think is the right thing to do.

Another thought....

Maybe it IS self-delusional to have faith, but if I didn't have faith, I'd go put a gun barrel in my mouth and pull the trigger before the sun went down.

Some days, it's faith that keeps me going and believing that throwing in the towel isn't the answer. Science doesn't offer me a reason to hope that tomorrow will be better than today.

It's called the uncertainty principle. The future isn't determined, only more or less probable.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9izVu_TtAE[/youtube]Lets try Mythbusters! [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSmTPThWD_c[/youtube]This explains why there are still apes, when we evolved from apes.

There are things Evolutionary Theorists should try harder to explain.

Like what?

Most obvious is why did humans become humans and Chimpanzees stayed Chimpanzees.

Humans and chimps evolved from a common ancestor, so actually chimps did not "stay the same", they changed into chimps. But species diverge, it's quite common. You might as well ask why are there both dolphins and whales? Why are there both gorillas and chimps? They filled a different niche in the ecosystem. At one time there were many hominid species, some more apelike, some more like we are now. Many species died off for various reasons. I hope that answers your question. It's not something evolutionary biologists have ignored.