Disappearing workers due to Obamacare

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People with serious illnesses won't have to kill themselves working 40 hours to keep their health insurance? The horror. This story comes around every year like clockwork. It's not new.

Just because a majority of people are voting a certain way doesn't mean that they are right.

ACA is a political witch's brew that combines the worst features of government inefficiency and incompetence with corporate malfeasance. The worst outcome is the disabling of private medical care for everyone except the very rich. If I didn't know any better I would think our Elected King Lord Obama is trying to wreck private medical care and plow the road for Single Payer Medical Insurance. Then we can join Canada and wait six months for an MRI.

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There are a lot of good things about obamacare. But I don't like forcing people to have health insurance. I feel it should be a personal choice. I do hear of companies forcing employees to work 30 hours or less just so they don't have to cover insurance. I feel this is wrong and unethical. But part-time work is still work. I'm so torn about this whole obamacare issue.

In that case, Obama shouldn't be the president.

BTW, don't you have about 2 dozen (for this week) of your own frivolous polls and threads to watch over?

The level of discourse is so elevated my ears are popping.

The Elephant in this is the War Babies, 45 million, who the oldest are just 67, full Social Security, and the youngest 62. They are hanging in because they all see this Recession as rigged to reduce their Social Security over the rest of their life.

As Social Security is rigged, counting the last five years more than the thirty five before, people are hanging in for the bigger check.

Now some will not get more, and Social Security does come with health care.

Instead of raising the age to retire, we should make it easier. 30 million job openings would do wonders for the younger workers.

In some two income families, one works for the cost of living, the other for healthcare payments. It is Insurance, it is easy to lose everything.

Taking people out of the workforce, opens places for other people.

For some, Food Stamps and Obama Care would cover their needs. They are at the bottom, where wage rates are stuck, and having to wear a fast food uniform, is considered lower than the same pay with real clothes, and less Corporate Franchise Rules.

So some Artists and Musicians will live better. We need that. Less demand for employment means higher wages.

The War Babies are leaving like the Black Death, a third of the workforce over the next decade.

New hires used to be cheaper, but that crop will be picked over quickly, and new grads will be getting good job offers.

We do not have the employment for a Blue Collar Middle Class, they have to educate up, or settle for what they are worth.

Also machines will continue to replace jobs. The population will drop.

Someone with a four year work record at low wages will be picked over someone with a Degree in Art, or Gender Studies.

So as the War Babies fade into Sunset Acres, this America of Cultural Disorder, these Brownfields, and falling bridges, will all be yours to rule over.

China will have more people with Doctorates than you have people.

Now Social Security is paying the people born between WWI and WWII, They were few.

The War Babies are many, and are hardly drawing their first check. for the next three decades, they are the first to be paid, or the Government will be voted out. You will pay them.

Worldwide, Starving diseased people dying of thirst will do anything to be thrown in your jails.

They will do your job for one bowl of rice a day, and a cardboard box to live in.

*Shrug*

We've got public healthcare here in New Zealand, and have had such for a long time. Society has yet to implode, and people don't seem to be dropping dead from sickness, injury, or disease due to wait times. When you want something non-urgent treated faster, you've got private options at your disposal if you've got the cash. If you DON'T have the cash, you're not completely screwed. It's win/win for everyone.

Remember: most people voted for Al Gore to be president in 2000. In the end, there were only 9 votes that mattered.

Maybe this article explains the issue more clearly:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fact-chec ... 15113.html

But, the majority of people are being suckered by the Repubnican misinterpretations.



Either deliberate lies or outright stupidity.

^^^ The article you cite contained only one fact:

So you are either being disingenuous or you're symptomatic of your own premise.

Yes, everything is guesswork. But that doesn't change the fact that the Repugnicans are either profound liars or abject idiots, as evidenced by their misinterpretations of the CBO report.

This is truly hilarious, you actually have people trying to sell the welfare trap as a good thing!

While many legitimate bases for attacking the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act may exist, the assertion "Duuuhhhh.....the CBO sez that Obamacare is gonna cost millions of people their jobs!" ISN'T ONE OF THEM, because the CBO report said something completely different!

If we aren't yet living in a total idiocracy, then the naysayers really should approach their attacks from a different angle.

If they can't think of anything better, then maybe they should go back to "Duuhhhh.....We can't have people buying their own insurance on these exchanges, cuz dat's Socialism....an' we gonna have Deff Panels 'n' stuff....duuuhhhh....people need ta depend on their bosses fur health insurance, cuz....duuuhhh.....dat's Capitalism!"

That many PPACA critics are deeply ignorant and pathological liars isn't news at this point. It's like talking to a creationist. There is literally no one home upstairs.

The pathological liars are the ones literally trying to spin a welfare trap into a positive. 2.5 million people will drop out of the labor force because they would lose their subsidies otherwise, this isn't a choice they are being forced out of work or else they couldn't afford health insurance that they are legally mandated to buy. Wasting and destroying lives, this will create just another barrier to those trying to climb to social ladder and that is by design.