why do feminist
cannotthinkoff wrote:
Kuku wrote:
Hopper wrote:
Feminism is concerned with ending the subjugation, oppression and exploitation of women as women, usually by and/or for men. When I say 'of women as women', I mean that their being women is the reason they are treated so. That men would not be treated that way, or would not be expected to put up with being treated that way.
And, in the Western World, when this happens?
It happens more than you think. Speaking from my own experience.
Although I completely understand how and why men would think otherwise. Especially if they themselves treat women as equals. But not everyone does, not at all, not yet.
So, for example?
Kuku wrote:
cannotthinkoff wrote:
Kuku wrote:
Hopper wrote:
Feminism is concerned with ending the subjugation, oppression and exploitation of women as women, usually by and/or for men. When I say 'of women as women', I mean that their being women is the reason they are treated so. That men would not be treated that way, or would not be expected to put up with being treated that way.
And, in the Western World, when this happens?
It happens more than you think. Speaking from my own experience.
Although I completely understand how and why men would think otherwise. Especially if they themselves treat women as equals. But not everyone does, not at all, not yet.
So, for example?
Fill your boots:
http://everydaysexism.com/
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Of course, it's probably quite a bit more complicated than that.
You know sometimes, between the dames and the horses, I don't even know why I put my hat on.
billiscool wrote:
there are women ceo,women governor,women only section,
ladies only night,women can play sports,women can
marry or not,women have the right to choice,
women can have men take care of them,
women can date men who are ''socially above them''
a woman can have no friends,low income and
still get a boyfriend.So,overall women have so
much rights in america.
so,what are feminist fighting for any ways?
ladies only night,women can play sports,women can
marry or not,women have the right to choice,
women can have men take care of them,
women can date men who are ''socially above them''
a woman can have no friends,low income and
still get a boyfriend.So,overall women have so
much rights in america.
so,what are feminist fighting for any ways?
There has not been a woman president!! (usa) Wonder why??
Hopper wrote:
Kuku wrote:
cannotthinkoff wrote:
Kuku wrote:
Hopper wrote:
Feminism is concerned with ending the subjugation, oppression and exploitation of women as women, usually by and/or for men. When I say 'of women as women', I mean that their being women is the reason they are treated so. That men would not be treated that way, or would not be expected to put up with being treated that way.
And, in the Western World, when this happens?
It happens more than you think. Speaking from my own experience.
Although I completely understand how and why men would think otherwise. Especially if they themselves treat women as equals. But not everyone does, not at all, not yet.
So, for example?
Fill your boots:
http://everydaysexism.com/
he's not gonna read it anyway
billiscool wrote:
there are women ceo,women governor,women only section,
ladies only night,women can play sports,women can
marry or not,women have the right to choice,
women can have men take care of them,
women can date men who are ''socially above them''
a woman can have no friends,low income and
still get a boyfriend.So,overall women have so
much rights in america.
so,what are feminist fighting for any ways?
ladies only night,women can play sports,women can
marry or not,women have the right to choice,
women can have men take care of them,
women can date men who are ''socially above them''
a woman can have no friends,low income and
still get a boyfriend.So,overall women have so
much rights in america.
so,what are feminist fighting for any ways?
Their right to party?
_________________
Of course, it's probably quite a bit more complicated than that.
You know sometimes, between the dames and the horses, I don't even know why I put my hat on.
Hopper wrote:
billiscool wrote:
there are women ceo,women governor,women only section,
ladies only night,women can play sports,women can
marry or not,women have the right to choice,
women can have men take care of them,
women can date men who are ''socially above them''
a woman can have no friends,low income and
still get a boyfriend.So,overall women have so
much rights in america.
so,what are feminist fighting for any ways?
ladies only night,women can play sports,women can
marry or not,women have the right to choice,
women can have men take care of them,
women can date men who are ''socially above them''
a woman can have no friends,low income and
still get a boyfriend.So,overall women have so
much rights in america.
so,what are feminist fighting for any ways?
Their right to party?
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXRhHnSssCE[/youtube] I totally agree with this feminist in this video! I just might side with Sex-possitive feminists.
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Hopper wrote:
So, for example?
Fill your boots:
everydaysexism com/[/quote]
Fine, let's take the first examples in this page.
Quote:
I come out to my kitchen wearing a white tank top and a black bra. After all, it's the late 90's. My mom is there with her boyfriend. We all have a bit of a conversation, and I notice that he is staring increasingly often at my breasts. Finally, he breaks off and interrupts himself. "I'm sorry," he says, his palm facing me, looking at my mom. "Can she put those away? Like, how about putting a shirt on?" My mouth drops open. Then, without thinking, I say: "How about not being such a lech?" The boyfriend gapes at me, then storms out of the house. I am sent to my room. I am asked to apologize for being so rude.
Ok,, an as*hole.
Quote:
My stepdad refers to my best friend as "the one with the big breasts." We're both, oh, twelve.
Well, another as*hole.
Quote:
"How old are you? Wow, you don't look that old!" -My boss
This is sexism? Because I have been told exactly the same. MANY times (I look like 10 years younger).
Quote:
Incidentally I've found a way to stop men leering at you. Use a wheelchair pushed by your mum
Go out on your own and you are just as likely to get verbal sexual harassment under the assumption that your desperate and ooh it's a shame
or risk assault as they assume you can't fight back.
Get someone to push you and they totally ignore you . No eye contact no problem .
Go out on your own and you are just as likely to get verbal sexual harassment under the assumption that your desperate and ooh it's a shame
or risk assault as they assume you can't fight back.
Get someone to push you and they totally ignore you . No eye contact no problem .
More about as*holes.
Quote:
A close friend of mine had told me about how guys "approach" her, I was utterly disgusted. So I thought to myself; "...what if I was a 'girl', what would happen if a guy approached me?" and then it hit me.
Some Guy: "Hey, baby, wanna see my cock?"
Me (as a girl): "...Not really, no, BUT! I'm so thrilled that you've FINALLY discovered that you actually have one!"
Some Guy: "Hey, baby, wanna see my cock?"
Me (as a girl): "...Not really, no, BUT! I'm so thrilled that you've FINALLY discovered that you actually have one!"
And more as*holes.
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Think about your own social circles. How many people in you own social circles behave this way? Seriously. How many?. Say a number.
All thie messages in this site are about specific cases of "assholism". And when I say "specific cases", this is exactly what I mean: it's not a social trend. I have barely known people who behaved that way. And I have known people from different social strata.
Of course, if you meet 100 people and one of them behaves that way, this is what you remember and this is what you write about on internet. You don't go to a "everydaysexism"-like site to write "well, today I met 99 people and all of them treated me OK".
So, is there as*holes? Yes, of course. Does that mean that women are treated that way? Nope. Now go to town in Afghanistan, meet these 99 or 100 people and check how they treat women. Yeap, women there have all the right to claim about sexism. Because almost everybody there treat them in a sexist way. This is the difference between "individual assholism" and "women are treated that way".
Or, to say it another way: have you some statistics that shows that shows that those behaviours are majoritary or socially accepted and not individual cases?
Assholism!^^ That got me to laugh right there! Imagine if there was an Assholism movement!
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Kuku wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
Assholism!^^ That got me to laugh right there! Imagine if there was an Assholism movement!
Of course there is, they call themselves "asshies", as opposed to the NT (also called "Nicetypical")
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Your neurotypical score is 40 of 200
You are very likely an aspie
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Although NT can also translate to Not Trustworthy as well.
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Your Aspie score is 193 of 200
Your neurotypical score is 40 of 200
You are very likely an aspie
No matter where I go I will always be a Gaijin even at home. Like Anime? https://kissanime.to/AnimeList
Kuku wrote:
Hopper wrote:
kuku wrote:
So, for example?
Fill your boots:
everydaysexism com/
Fine, let's take the first examples in this page.
Quote:
I come out to my kitchen wearing a white tank top and a black bra. After all, it's the late 90's. My mom is there with her boyfriend. We all have a bit of a conversation, and I notice that he is staring increasingly often at my breasts. Finally, he breaks off and interrupts himself. "I'm sorry," he says, his palm facing me, looking at my mom. "Can she put those away? Like, how about putting a shirt on?" My mouth drops open. Then, without thinking, I say: "How about not being such a lech?" The boyfriend gapes at me, then storms out of the house. I am sent to my room. I am asked to apologize for being so rude.
Ok,, an as*hole.
Quote:
My stepdad refers to my best friend as "the one with the big breasts." We're both, oh, twelve.
Well, another as*hole.
Quote:
"How old are you? Wow, you don't look that old!" -My boss
This is sexism? Because I have been told exactly the same. MANY times (I look like 10 years younger).
Quote:
Incidentally I've found a way to stop men leering at you. Use a wheelchair pushed by your mum
Go out on your own and you are just as likely to get verbal sexual harassment under the assumption that your desperate and ooh it's a shame
or risk assault as they assume you can't fight back.
Get someone to push you and they totally ignore you . No eye contact no problem .
Go out on your own and you are just as likely to get verbal sexual harassment under the assumption that your desperate and ooh it's a shame
or risk assault as they assume you can't fight back.
Get someone to push you and they totally ignore you . No eye contact no problem .
More about as*holes.
Quote:
A close friend of mine had told me about how guys "approach" her, I was utterly disgusted. So I thought to myself; "...what if I was a 'girl', what would happen if a guy approached me?" and then it hit me.
Some Guy: "Hey, baby, wanna see my cock?"
Me (as a girl): "...Not really, no, BUT! I'm so thrilled that you've FINALLY discovered that you actually have one!"
Some Guy: "Hey, baby, wanna see my cock?"
Me (as a girl): "...Not really, no, BUT! I'm so thrilled that you've FINALLY discovered that you actually have one!"
And more as*holes.
---
Think about your own social circles. How many people in you own social circles behave this way? Seriously. How many?. Say a number.
All thie messages in this site are about specific cases of "assholism". And when I say "specific cases", this is exactly what I mean: it's not a social trend. I have barely known people who behaved that way. And I have known people from different social strata.
Of course, if you meet 100 people and one of them behaves that way, this is what you remember and this is what you write about on internet. You don't go to a "everydaysexism"-like site to write "well, today I met 99 people and all of them treated me OK".
So, is there as*holes? Yes, of course. Does that mean that women are treated that way? Nope. Now go to town in Afghanistan, meet these 99 or 100 people and check how they treat women. Yeap, women there have all the right to claim about sexism. Because almost everybody there treat them in a sexist way. This is the difference between "individual assholism" and "women are treated that way".
Or, to say it another way: have you some statistics that shows that shows that those behaviours are majoritary or socially accepted and not individual cases?
Yes, sexist a***holes. I have personally known people who behaved that way. I don't know them anymore, because they were a***holes, and it's my preference in life to not know a***holes.
I've lived in many places, and seen this kind of thing all over the place. Every woman I know has been and still is treated so.
Of course it means women are treated that way - they are treated that way, ffs. The point is, the people who treat them that way would not treat men that way. The purpose of the site is to collect this raw data of lived experience, a kind of answer to questions like billiscools 'what are feminists fighting for?'.
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Of course, it's probably quite a bit more complicated than that.
You know sometimes, between the dames and the horses, I don't even know why I put my hat on.
Hopper wrote:
Yes, sexist a***holes. I have personally known people who behaved that way. I don't know them anymore, because they were a***holes, and it's my preference in life to not know a***holes.
I've lived in many places, and seen this kind of thing all over the place. Every woman I know has been and still is treated so.
Of course it means women are treated that way - they are treated that way, ffs. The point is, the people who treat them that way would not treat men that way. The purpose of the site is to collect this raw data of lived experience, a kind of answer to questions like billiscools 'what are feminists fighting for?'.
I've lived in many places, and seen this kind of thing all over the place. Every woman I know has been and still is treated so.
Of course it means women are treated that way - they are treated that way, ffs. The point is, the people who treat them that way would not treat men that way. The purpose of the site is to collect this raw data of lived experience, a kind of answer to questions like billiscools 'what are feminists fighting for?'.
Why do you answer questions nobody has done? Which question are you answering?
Why do you quote me if you're answering a question I didn't make?
I didn't say "Did you know as*holes?". I said"How many?".
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+definition
Kuku wrote:
Hopper wrote:
Yes, sexist a***holes. I have personally known people who behaved that way. I don't know them anymore, because they were a***holes, and it's my preference in life to not know a***holes.
I've lived in many places, and seen this kind of thing all over the place. Every woman I know has been and still is treated so.
Of course it means women are treated that way - they are treated that way, ffs. The point is, the people who treat them that way would not treat men that way. The purpose of the site is to collect this raw data of lived experience, a kind of answer to questions like billiscools 'what are feminists fighting for?'.
I've lived in many places, and seen this kind of thing all over the place. Every woman I know has been and still is treated so.
Of course it means women are treated that way - they are treated that way, ffs. The point is, the people who treat them that way would not treat men that way. The purpose of the site is to collect this raw data of lived experience, a kind of answer to questions like billiscools 'what are feminists fighting for?'.
Why do you answer questions nobody has done? Which question are you answering?
Why do you quote me if you're answering a question I didn't make?
I didn't say "Did you know as*holes?". I said"How many?".
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+definition
I thought the answer was obvious - I have no sexist a***holes in my social circle. Zero. Nil. I make a point of avoiding them. The same way I don't socialise with racists, or homophobes, etc. I am fortunate to be a white straight male, such that that decision can pretty much be the end of it if I so choose. Granted, I don't socialise very much anyway, but as far as I do, I'm shunning the a***holes.
In other, earlier situations, where I have not been able to be in such control of my social circumstances, I have known plenty of sexist a***holes. I could say I've known eight sexist a***holes. Or I could say, around one hundred and fifty. Or four thousand. The number would be meaningless, because it has no context, in terms of how my life has been, how many people I have known, what either of us mean by 'known', etc.
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Of course, it's probably quite a bit more complicated than that.
You know sometimes, between the dames and the horses, I don't even know why I put my hat on.
Hopper wrote:
Kuku wrote:
Hopper wrote:
Yes, sexist a***holes. I have personally known people who behaved that way. I don't know them anymore, because they were a***holes, and it's my preference in life to not know a***holes.
I've lived in many places, and seen this kind of thing all over the place. Every woman I know has been and still is treated so.
Of course it means women are treated that way - they are treated that way, ffs. The point is, the people who treat them that way would not treat men that way. The purpose of the site is to collect this raw data of lived experience, a kind of answer to questions like billiscools 'what are feminists fighting for?'.
I've lived in many places, and seen this kind of thing all over the place. Every woman I know has been and still is treated so.
Of course it means women are treated that way - they are treated that way, ffs. The point is, the people who treat them that way would not treat men that way. The purpose of the site is to collect this raw data of lived experience, a kind of answer to questions like billiscools 'what are feminists fighting for?'.
Why do you answer questions nobody has done? Which question are you answering?
Why do you quote me if you're answering a question I didn't make?
I didn't say "Did you know as*holes?". I said"How many?".
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+definition
I thought the answer was obvious - I have no sexist a***holes in my social circle. Zero. Nil. I make a point of avoiding them. The same way I don't socialise with racists, or homophobes, etc. I am fortunate to be a white straight male, such that that decision can pretty much be the end of it if I so choose. Granted, I don't socialise very much anyway, but as far as I do, I'm shunning the a***holes.
In other, earlier situations, where I have not been able to be in such control of my social circumstances, I have known plenty of sexist a***holes. I could say I've known eight sexist a***holes. Or I could say, around one hundred and fifty. Or four thousand. The number would be meaningless, because it has no context, in terms of how my life has been, how many people I have known, what either of us mean by 'known', etc.
So this is the number (what I asked) of as*holes in your social circles: Zero.
The number of as*holes in my social circles, to add a counterexample: Zero.
It seems like sexism is not a majoritary social behaviour.
Nothing Further, Your Honor.