I don't get this gun culture

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He made it out fine.He got lost in Little Rock once and said where he was at was worse looking than Detroit(I think it was scary because he was alone),he was carrying then,made it out fine.
As for Raptor's comment,I doubt they would have been allowed a firearm on the job,maybe with a permit to carry.A van filled with men driving around at midnight look like they are also up to no good,so they didn't really look like prey.He was working at the tall building where GM,Border Patrol,and The Marriott is,Its in every movie that's filmed in Motown.The security was unreal.He just stayed on the job sight in a really nice room at the Marriott,a nice job perk,while he was there,a Tatoo convention was going on,the guests trashed the motel and there was beer and passed out bodies everywhere,his boss found a case of beer in the hall,finder's keepers.He was irritated because everyone kept asking them if they were from Texas. The staff was awesome,some of the people in the kitchen were from Arkansas,so they made sure he ate good,real food like at home.Treated him like family.
I spent time in a bad LR neighborhood at a runaway shelter,we went to the park to smoke a doobie and some guys came up and asked us if we wanted to buy some smack,when they found out we didn't,they seemed angry and wanted to know why we were in their park,we left.
Later on another kid taught me how to get the nitrous out of the whipped cream cans,we went to Safeway every day.Got caught after many visits,they thought we were eating it,Aked if we were full,one kid said no we didn't ague,just paid and left.There was a police stand off with an armed guy in the next door house,some of us snuck out to see the action and a cop popped out of the shrubs and yelled at us to get back inside.spoilsport.

Yes, Chicago is the "murder capital" now (i.e., it leads the nation in total number of homicides in 2013).

Detroit's population is steadily declining, so the crime numbers are going down. However, the rate of violent crime is the highest in the nation. Thus, one's odds of being a violent crime victim are greatest in Detroit, MI than anywhere else in the US.

Chicago is #80 on the list of city violent crime rates.

source, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... crime_rate

If ya don't like guns, don't have one.


In any case, I fully support the right to disallow other people to bring their guns onto private property when the owner of the property prefers that said people don't do so.

This makes sense. I don't think it is the entire reason, but it makes sense.

Detroit is a case in point, but are there may be other post industrial towns that didn't have that response. I mean is Pittsburgh that bad? How long did it take to recover?

I think it matter what happen after industrial decline, how it is handled an the general attitude to change. We had similar examples in the UK. Some town reinventing themselves, where as others permanently stuck in a depressed state.

from what I can gather in a few minutes, there has been atleast 3-4 school shootings there since the ban. I can't find how many there were before the ban.

School shootings in the us have been happening since before there was a US, so its nothing new. Its just more publicized due to mass media. it seems to be the same with murders and kidnappings. Back in the day if there was a shooting in a city on the east coast it was unlikely people on the west coast would every hear about it. Now a days if there's a shooting in china the whole world knows. I believe this leads the the appearance that school shootings are new or have become way more common then they use to be.

Pittsburgh never got as bad as Detroit. Pittsburgh is a smaller city and had other industry and local assets going for it. It's just taken some time to grow enough new business to at least partly rebound the local economy. Pittsburgh is not back to where it was before the decline of the steel industry but it's getting there. Only this time without all the pollution that the steel mills were notorious for.

If you're going to make assertions like that, you better bring facts to back it up - because all of the statistics run completely contrary to what you're saying.

/\ Call me obtuse but I'm not seeing much of an assertion there.

I don't know much, and I've been kinda ignoring this thread, but it looks as though the ban on semi-automatic guns in AU was put in after the Port Arthur Massacre in 1996:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_polit ... nsequences

That shooting wasn't in a school:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arth ... stralia%29

There seem to have been four school shootings since then, two of them resulting in deaths:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#Oceania

So is this mainly confined to the rust belt?



You mean there were colonial school boys shooting at each other with muskets? You've made my day

is there another example like Detroit in it heyday?

That was a bold claim that I just had to research on google. I thought- can't possibly be true. But here is a wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sc ... ted_States



The next school shooting wasn't until 1850, 90 years later, but it fulfills the claim of being a school shooting prior to 1776.

To some extent, just about any city in the "rust belt".

I don't get it either but still own them. Lol