Which religion / belief do you belong to?

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That's one Hell of a quote tree.

Thanks, the article was very interesting. And thanks for respecting my point of view on the value of essence over formal historical tradition. :)

it's better when people could take individual quotes and address them.

"Quote trees" are really, really unwieldy.

I personally think it depends on individual reading speed and focus. Some of us have either or both or none.

My so-called Autistic super power is the hyperlexic associated 10 to 15 times faster reading speed than the average human so the longest tree up there takes me only a matter of seconds to consume and the focus tool of Tai Chi only enhances that ability.

So, no, quote trees do not bother me at all but I can see how they would bother others, particularly at this point in history, as scientific studies shows the average human has seriously the attention span of a Gold Fish, but this overall, is no Gold Fish forum. :)

I have a decent attention span, thank you.

I just have other things to do--other than sifting through the bark of the Quote Tree.

When it holds my interest, I read every word of every post. If I argue something, I read every word of every post.

One big problem within the internet as a whole: people tend to argue based upon snippets of information, rather than the entirety of what is presented. The same with reading the news: people only look at the headlines; they don't read the story.

And how about people having the "attention span" to present individual ideas, rather than presenting them as an unwieldy conglomerate of ideas.

If I'm going to quite someone in entirety I try to break it down into blocks of quoted text and deal with the ideas separately. This preserves the original and also allows for organization of my thoughts.

But yeah, fin up for goldfish.

To be clear that was a general observation not directed at anyone personally in this discussion and I was hoping I made it clear that the Gold Fish study overall does not apply to this forum.

And I am not a concise person nor do I plan or expect to become one as that is the innate way my diverse mind functions and yes there are obviously others with this type of diversity on this forum so I do feel relatively comfortable to communicate freely. :)

I'm a free communicator. My diverse mind works in diverse ways.

It's just easier if one breaks down thoughts. That's a principle of poetry as well. "Breaths of thoughts." They are more approachable if presented separately.

Nothing personal against you. I'm just answering those who believe that people who want comprehensibility need a "longer attention span."

Thanks for the clarification and by the way in real life I am a poet but it is free verse and often epic as well, of course. :)

>>>Free verser myself.

If you haven't already done so, I encourage you to start a blog with your poetry, as there is almost unlimited potential on the Internet now to publish and share poetry with others with similar and MUCH DIFFERENT diverse minds.

It's fascinating to me to connect with people around the world like this.

What I find is there are many people like me, but who are undiagnosed somewhere on the AUTISM spectrum OR broader AUTISM phenotype, per 10 to 15 percent of the general population, writing poetry, and yes very out of the box poetry per free verse style.

And for me, if it were not for a total breakdown of humanity, both physically and mentally, in mid-life, I would still be churning away in the grind of the 9 to 5 lifestyle, administrating programs and supervising folks, with no Autism Spectrum diagnosis, with no poetry and truly No REAL life to SPEAK OF.

And no, I would have likely gone to my dying bed, never dancing again like I did in my teens and 20's and more than ever before NOW, as my major special interest is free style interpretive dance, done in a ballet/martial arts LIKE style now over 2600 miles in a little over 14 months by measure of Nike GPS Sports watch THAT no one CAN duplicate, not even me as dance leads me, now, always now, to new frontiers.

I do not lead the dance of life, anymore; again, the dance of life leads me.

And not only that, I can leg press 810 LBS now, but not cause I'm a tough guy; moreover, INSTEAD, as I learn THE True Power of human being is in the Divine Feminine in Grace of flow of movement in 360 degrees of all body parts moving in tandem, and Sacred Unconditional Love with no Illusory Fears.

Of course I'm not the first Philosopher/Sophist, to come to that conclusion, by far, and on COURSE, convincing people that IT WORKS in REAL life, per action, and JUST DOING IT, IS truly the job of 'JOB' or maybe NIKE, ha-ha! :)

I cannot even convince my wife of almost 25 years, that her life is in HER HANDS, IN A RELATIVE FREE WILL WAY, and not some imaginary sky GOD, alone, created by a tribe wanting to hold on to land and food AND THE REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS OF WOMEN AND MAN ALIKE.

The mind CAN be like a steel trap and existence in A LITERAL HUMAN HELL, for those who REFUSE TO OPEN IT, and live in what CAN BE A LITERAL HUMAN HEAVEN.

I've truly lived in both places, and I don't think it takes a rocket scientist, to live in heaven, in fact, standard MEASURED intelligence may be a road block, and religion can certainly be the biggest of road blocks, to truly seeing the GOD of Mother Nature TRUE, i to EYE AS ONE LIVING FORCE OF LIFE. :)

So I continue to write epic poetry here, but in disguise as when I remove the standard intelligence punctuation, grammar, and form, it becomes organic; YES, alive, in shaped form as well, per the Universal patterns of the fractals of the Universe in Golden Mean Spiral of 1.618.

Yes, the Golden Mean Spiral of the pyramid, the vase, the chalice, the bell, the wave and the word BECOME ONE, with human being as well as phallic and fertility symbols inherent as such, and last but not least Galaxies, Hurricanes, Tornados, and Nautilus shells that have been around so much longer than human being.

So YES, the word is born of flesh AND the flesh is born of word, 'ABOVE so BELOW'.

For me this is literal truth of life NOW as well as metaphorical truth.

But no, it's nothing new, at ALL aka GOD.

There is nothing sadder to me in this world, than Lost Fractals, and humans are apparently one of the few if any animals that can attain this separation from Mother Nature True aka GOD.

Seriously, it makes me cry, as the answers NOW seem so simple to me but so far away for most people, for sure, who walk as Zombies in a life, BOTH LITERALLY AND METAPHORICALLY that IS EVOLVED TO BE FREE 'VERSE' AS 'UNI VERSE' in DANCE, SONG, AND POETRY OF LIFE. :)

First tHere IS dark, then light, then movement or dance, then sound or song to energize movement or dance in infinite loop, and then some humans invented poetry to attempt to describe emotions that power human beings the same, in fractal way.

And then thEre IS science NOW that continues to be the scribe of GOD.

To suggest that any of this is separate from GOD is at LEAST in PART, evidence of lost fractals of life, as far as I see now.

This perhaps, brings a whole new LIGHT to the words lost and savior, huh, per Abrahamic religious reference. ;)

It's both science and COMMON SENSE.

MY CAT LIVES THE COMMON SENSE PART OF IT, easily, like a C'aTman' NAP. :)

Hard to describe it I guess, or call the way I think religious. It's about power. Knowledge. Learning. Conciensness. A conglomerate of these things I guess. Knowing that power is everywhere, you really don't know much about any of it, you could learn alot more, and you are not more important, or stronger than it.

Awareness, and conciensness is a big deal for me. Most all people mull it over like it is no big deal. I believe it is the unquestionable biggest hurdle to actually understand. To believe you know it, is the kind of clarity that becomes a natural enemy. It is just being used by us. Most think that is an answer. All my life it has been nothing but a question. Like a dream. Neither here nor there. We don't know enough, and could learn more about that one too.

I believe in god I guess? As more of a substance than an actual thing. I believe in it, however it really hasn't taken shape for me. It's just power. All kinds. Making you very small, and weak in comparison. You can attain power from it. It is the stuff that makes you alive. You can feed on it, and take it in. It can destroy just the same. To believe you are powerful like this is just another enemy. No one knows enough about this either. We are all weak in comparison. The earth, the sun, the stars, water, too much oxygen, whatever.

When people can tell you about these things like they know the totality of what is going on to me is a comedy. It is the clarity of mind that makes us weak. It spreads like a disease.

I don't know if this is a religion. Maybe it's is just my meaningless made up conglomerate of garble, or just the folly of humans.

Born and raised Mormon. Been out for a little over 2 years now. I consider myself to be Unitarian Universalist/atheist these days.

Omnist

It means I'm multiple religions.. all of them in fact (just not very good at any of them).

Well, to answer the question; I am a Muslim, adherent of Islam, I always was a Muslim. I do accept evolution, but I am critical and skeptic of the theory on evolution, which means that I am not blindly believing it, or rather believe anything about it, I think natural selection is a myth. I am indifferent about homosexuals and all those other queers, I don't support them, I'm not against them either.. I am accepting of other people's faiths, but I like to question them and have debates with those followers.