Max Blumenthal interview on Israels double standards
trollcatman wrote:
Mukherjee80 wrote:
And to support your statements you link ... to an article on arranged marriage, a practice that (though frowned upon in the West), is common all over the world, including amongst Orthodox Jews.
The article wasn't about arranged marriages but forced marriages of minors. And just because something is common all over the world doesn't mean it's right.
So do you think that justifies Parsimmonpudding calling for the Palestinians' extermination?
Persimmonpudding wrote:
Mukherjee80 wrote:
You recommend the Palestinians' extermination,
Yes. It might keep us from having to enter a more prolonged war against people like them elsewhere in the Levant. Just as the Atom Bomb ended WWII, killing off one population of pig-dogs might force the rest of them to realize that we are not going to cosset them, and we are serious.Quote:
and yet it is they who are "bloodthirsty",
Do you not see what those like them are doing to each other in Syria? Do you call those pig-dogs civilized? They are vermin who fall upon each other like savages, and it would be bad enough except that they spread their violence elsewhere.Persimmonpudding, who else would you like to see exterminated?
I hear the blacks of the Congo are engaged in a bloody civil war at the moment. Perhaps you would like to exterminate their fellow blacks in some other African country to save "us" from having to enter a more prolonged war on that continent?
Also, I hear female genital mutilation is quite common in Sudan, so how about those people?
Persimmonpudding wrote:
I think Israel should stop treating Palestinians in their hospitals, cut off their electricity, cut off their fresh water, stop sending food supplies, tighten their blockade, and soak Gaza Strip with napalm.
Neutron bombs are more environmentally friendly. You know, climate change, and all that jazz.
Humanaut wrote:
Persimmonpudding wrote:
I think Israel should stop treating Palestinians in their hospitals, cut off their electricity, cut off their fresh water, stop sending food supplies, tighten their blockade, and soak Gaza Strip with napalm.
Neutron bombs are more environmentally friendly. You know, climate change, and all that jazz.
Quoting again for posterity.
Perhaps I was wrong to think that Humanaut's Zio-fanaticism was not quite at the psychotic level of Persimmonpudding's.
Humanaut, I notice you still won't answer or even acknowledge my question, which I will now ask you for the fourth time: are you a Jew?
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Persimmonpudding wrote:
Mukherjee80 wrote:
This rabid rant really speaks for itself. Some cartoon constitutes a racial slur, but calling the Palestinians "genetically inferior, mentally stunted, ungrateful savages" is fine? I'm just quoting this in full now for posterity.
Because, if it were not for the Israelis, the freaking Palestinians would be doing the same things to each other that the Syrians are doing. They would be doing the same things that the Islamic State wackos are doing in Iraq.I call them low-bred rubbish because they behave like low-bred rubbish. When the Palestinians start behaving like human beings, I will acknowledge that they are human beings.
Just admit that the Palestinians are bloodthirsty, inherently immoral savages, and they are not going to change.
Forcing little girls into marriage is rape. How can you even ponder this being the behavior of civilized people? How can you condone that and not be disgusted with yourself?
These are not human beings. They are animals. They are pigs.
I think that, if anything, the Israelis have been too soft on them.
Thanks for this contribution. This foam mouthed, racist diatribe is evidence manifest of the true Israeli supporter.
The emperor has no clothes on.
By what standard is my avatar anti-semitic? I've got to know this.
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Mukherjee80 wrote:
Persimmonpudding, who else would you like to see exterminated?
I hear the blacks of the Congo are engaged in a bloody civil war at the moment. Perhaps you would like to exterminate their fellow blacks in some other African country to save "us" from having to enter a more prolonged war on that continent?
Also, I hear female genital mutilation is quite common in Sudan, so how about those people?
He probably does, its common knowledge that Israel has a policy of enforced sterilisation of black immigrants.
Enforced usage, on a prolonged basis of depo vera can damage egg production.
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if i was a gambling man i would put money that persimon is a paid troll on the IDF payroll to shill for the Israeli hasbara project.
Mukherjee80 wrote:
Keep it coming, Persimonpudding.
Like I said, you are the one defending pedophilic rape, hiding behind cultural relativism.Quote:
By the way, who is this "us/we" you speak of?
The world at large. The Levant is escalating rapidly toward a third world war and set to drag the rest of the world with them. At the center of them are the most worthless, disposable people in the world, the Palestinians.Quote:
Are you Jewish? Christian Zionist? Or one of those nice secular humanists I hear so much about?
Tam jivam tam sariram.
thomas81 wrote:
its common knowledge that Israel has a policy of enforced sterilisation of black immigrants.
You do know they have an Ethiopian-born woman as their 2014 beauty queen, right? Israel has a mixed record on their treatment of Africans, but what you are saying is quite contradictory to what is evident.
Mukherjee80 wrote:
Perhaps I was wrong to think that Humanaut's Zio-fanaticism was not quite at the psychotic level of Persimmonpudding's.
No. He wants to use a relatively humane neutron bomb. I think that's some sissy liberal BS. I say use napalm.In all seriousness, I think the Israelis are way too soft on the Palestinians for what they get in return, which is stupid demonization by people who choose to be ignorant.
Mukherjee80 wrote:
I hear the blacks of the Congo are engaged in a bloody civil war at the moment.
Yet they don't drag others into their pathetic inter-tribal conflict. They keep their savagery to themselves. The dramatics and grand-standing of the Levantine savages spreads like a malignant cancer.
Persimmonpudding wrote:
Mukherjee80 wrote:
Keep it coming, Persimonpudding.
Like I said, you are the one defending pedophilic rape, hiding behind cultural relativism. Nice try, Mr Genocide Fantasist, but you're convincing nobody. You're the one recommending for the Palestinians to be exterminated, and then pathetically trying to justify it by pointing to the immoral behaviour that a segment of the Palestinian population indulge in among themselves. You expect us to believe you care about Palestinian girls when you're recommending their entire population be exterminated?
Persimmonpudding wrote:
Mukherjee80 wrote:
By the way, who is this "us/we" you speak of?
The world at large. The Levant is escalating rapidly toward a third world war and set to drag the rest of the world with them. At the center of them are the most worthless, disposable people in the world, the Palestinians.Yeah right, because the Palestinians have so much power, unlike say the Zionist lobby in the US.
Persimmonpudding wrote:
Mukherjee80 wrote:
Are you Jewish? Christian Zionist? Or one of those nice secular humanists I hear so much about?
Tam jivam tam sariram.Just like Humanaut you won't answer a straightforward question with a straightforward answer. What is your ethnic and religious background?
I am curious to know where you acquired this Zio-fanatical worldview? From Jewish supremacist parents? From some lunatic Christian Zionist pastor? From surfing Zionist websites 24-7?
Persimmonpudding wrote:
Mukherjee80 wrote:
I hear the blacks of the Congo are engaged in a bloody civil war at the moment.
Yet they don't drag others into their pathetic inter-tribal conflict. They keep their savagery to themselves. The dramatics and grand-standing of the Levantine savages spreads like a malignant cancer.Again, you're convincing nobody with this sick pathetic rubbish. You sit there calling for "the world" to intervene and exterminate the Palestinians, then try to blame the Palestinians for dragging the world in. And of course you have no problem using stories about what Palestinians do among themselves as justification for "our" intervention.
I find it's quite common for people like you who consume nothing but Zionist propaganda all day to develop such delusions of moral superiority that you don't realise how deranged you appear to most people.
Persimmonpudding wrote:
It's about time you saw what hate actually looks like. Islam is a crappy and violent religion. They are a filthy misogynistic child-raping non-culture. The Palestinians are violent, and I question their authenticity as members of the human race. I recommend their immediate extermination. They are genetically inferior, mentally stunted, ungrateful savages.
Just quoting this one more time. If ever I see a newbie on another thread engaging in a debate with Persimmonpudding about Israel, I will gladly link back to this thread - just so the newbie can get a better idea about what "hate actually looks like" of course.
Mukherjee80 wrote:
Persimmonpudding wrote:
Mukherjee80 wrote:
Keep it coming, Persimonpudding.
Like I said, you are the one defending pedophilic rape, hiding behind cultural relativism. Nice try, Mr Genocide Fantasist, but you're convincing nobody. You're the one recommending for the Palestinians to be exterminated, and then pathetically trying to justify it by pointing to the immoral behaviour that a segment of the Palestinian population indulge in among themselves. You expect us to believe you care about Palestinian girls when you're recommending their entire population be exterminated?
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Persimmonpudding wrote:
Mukherjee80 wrote:
By the way, who is this "us/we" you speak of?
The world at large. The Levant is escalating rapidly toward a third world war and set to drag the rest of the world with them. At the center of them are the most worthless, disposable people in the world, the Palestinians.Yeah right, because the Palestinians have so much power, unlike say the Zionist lobby in the US.
Therefore, why should the Israelis be playing "touch" when the Palestinians are playing "tackle"?
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Persimmonpudding wrote:
Mukherjee80 wrote:
Are you Jewish? Christian Zionist? Or one of those nice secular humanists I hear so much about?
Tam jivam tam sariram.Just like Humanaut you won't answer a straightforward question with a straightforward answer. What is your ethnic and religious background?
If I can be said to identify with any ethnic group, then I am descended from smelly dreadlocked cheese-eating beer-worshiping pixie-appeasing transalpine Gallic barbarians.
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I am curious to know where you acquired this Zio-fanatical worldview?
Interacting with people like you. I have tried taking a moderate position on this topic, in the past, only to find people like you calling me "racist" because I will not tow your particular line. You will call anyone who does not agree 100% with your views a "racist" or a "Zionist." You do not have compromise in your make-up. You are incapable of rational discussion. You don't want it. You want someone to demonize. You want someone that you can excuse making racist caricatures of, on the pretense that you are protesting against the "persecution" of another group of people.You don't want reason. You don't want compassion. You don't want moderation. All you want is an excuse for murdering Jews because you are like any other socialist antisemite. You spout hate under the pretense of sugary sympathy toward a putative "oppressed people."
When someone points out that the "oppressors" are treating the "oppressed" in their hospitals FOR FREE, supplying them with running water FOR FREE and supplying them with electricity FOR FREE and giving them every opportunity at a kingly existence on their little beach, you explain it away, somehow. I have even had someone in your position try to claim that Israel's supply of free electricity to the Palestinians is somehow a form of "oppression."
Now, the Israelis are talking about giving these sorry ingrates their own country, hoping it will quiet them. That's not going to be enough. The Palestinians don't just want their own country, but they want total domination and primacy, which they are not going to get. Therefore, they continue throwing tantrum after tantrum and beating their fists like stupid children, no matter what you do for them.
As if that were not bad enough, their dramatics and grandstanding are spurring the spread of violence throughout their region, and they don't even care! They do not even care that it's their fault that their region is falling further apart with every passing day.
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Again, you're convincing nobody with this sick pathetic rubbish. You sit there calling for "the world" to intervene and exterminate the Palestinians, then try to blame the Palestinians for dragging the world in. And of course you have no problem using stories about what Palestinians do among themselves as justification for "our" intervention.
They and others like them are determined to subject the rest of the world to their sick lifestyle. They want Shariah law everywhere. They want it forced on the entire world. These are not people who will tolerate anything other than the defeat and humiliation of all who do not think as they do, and when their pride gets them into trouble, they cry, "Oh, we're so persecuted!" They are victims only of their own stupid pride.
thomas81 wrote:
He probably does, its common knowledge that Israel has a policy of enforced sterilisation of black immigrants.
Enforced usage, on a prolonged basis of depo vera can damage egg production.
Enforced usage, on a prolonged basis of depo vera can damage egg production.
I've checked the basis of your statement - it's inaccurate. You can look up on Wikipedia: enforced sterilisation. Early in 2013 the news emerged that some Ethiopian immigrant women were being given Depo-Provera without being properly informed. The Israeli government straight away issued guidelines prohibiting this practice. Worldwide, people are being forcibly sterilised. Come on Thomas, how are you going to stand up for them? What about people who have learning difficulties in your country?
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Mukherjee80 wrote:
I find it's quite common for people like you who consume nothing but Zionist propaganda all day to develop such delusions of moral superiority that you don't realise how deranged you appear to most people.
Just quoting this one more time. If ever I see a newbie on another thread engaging in a debate with Persimmonpudding about Israel, I will gladly link back to this thread - just so the newbie can get a better idea about what "hate actually looks like" of course.
No need re this newbie - I can recognise it quite well. Thank-you for your concern. You're right. it can be very easy to get carried away by one's own propaganda.
Southerner
welcometoantarctica wrote:
No need re this newbie - I can recognise it quite well. Thank-you for your concern. You're right. it can be very easy to get carried away by one's own propaganda.
Southerner
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HAHAHA! The only Jewish propaganda that I devote any time to is listening to klezmer occasionally. Perhaps the Elders of Zion have programmed secret subliminal messages into their music! Other than that, I'm as Goy as they come.
Don't be alarmed by the stuff I'm saying here. I'm just saying the things that this guy THINKS he is reacting to, so perhaps he can learn the difference between the following statements:
An actual Israeli Jew: "We really don't have any other place to call a homeland, and we've been murdered and harassed in every nation where we've tried to find safe harbor. We feel sorry for some of these displaced Palestinians, but their actual claims to the land are often pretty dubious. We're trying to find a compromise, but sorting it out has been a big legal mess with people bringing forward hand-drawn maps that are hard to distinguish from any other land feature. We hope that someday we can find a peaceful two-state solution. In the meantime, we try to provide them as much as we can in the way of services and infrastructure."
What this guy hears: "KILL ALL THE PALESTINIANS! KILL THEM ALL IN THE NAME OF ZION!!"
My thinking is that perhaps, if he sees the real thing, he might actually figure out how to distinguish between actual genocidal sentiments and what the Israelis have been saying.
I got fed up with trying to reason with people like Mukherjee80 years ago. They don't want rational, valid discussion on an even playing field. They want there to be a situation in which they are bringers of "enlightenment" to the ignorant masses, and they will not believe that you are a fellow "enlightened" person unless you join them in their stupid cult. Otherwise, no matter what you say or do, they will find some pretext on which to call you "racist" or "ignorant." They have complete contempt for anyone who thinks differently from themselves.
Just look at how both he and Thomas81 have been trying to find some pretext on which to accuse me of not being able to think for myself. They want to believe that I'm over here just reading nothing but "Zionist propaganda," as if there is actually Zionist propaganda that extreme even extant in the land, and they will never believe that I am actually a freethinking person.
Just keep in mind that I am dealing with someone who is demanding to know my ethnic and religious background, clearly looking for a pretext on which to dismiss the validity of my views. They will take anything as a pretext if you give it to them.
Mukherjee80 wrote:
trollcatman wrote:
Mukherjee80 wrote:
And to support your statements you link ... to an article on arranged marriage, a practice that (though frowned upon in the West), is common all over the world, including amongst Orthodox Jews.
The article wasn't about arranged marriages but forced marriages of minors. And just because something is common all over the world doesn't mean it's right.
So do you think that justifies Parsimmonpudding calling for the Palestinians' extermination?
Of course not.
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