Atheist kills muslims and Gun Control a bad thing?
Oh??
Didn't you just get a TOS for personal attacks?
I keep a piece (I have several) on my person or at least in my vehicle all the time. If this were the case I would have capped several people by now. Being "stupid" I'm sure I would have shot myself in the foot at least once.
Nevertheless, if you were taught how to handle a gun as a toddler, you had no choice but to learn to habitually assume a two-handed grip because a child is physically incapable of controlling a weapon one-handed, simply because it is mechanically not feasible.[/quote]
Yeah, and I was taught to pee and poop in a toddler's little toilet but I grew out of it.
Do you have any idea how hilarious you are? I know some of the more thin skinned and neurotic get all butthurt by this kind of venomous rhetoric but I get a kick out of it. Every once in a while we get one like you here and I just LOVE to f**k with them.
I didnt even read the whole story. s**t happens and some things have to be accepted as the perils of living in a free society. Those victims could have elected to go armed themselves (legally if they were US citizens) and turned the tables but that did not happen. It was one of your anti-gun brethren elected to turn this into a gunz-r-bad thread.
Yeah, of course it will.
I know nothing about those things. Furthermore, I moved from the swamp into a city so that I wouldn't have to carry a pistol to shoot water moccasins or rabid coyotes with, and I ain't looked back.
The city is a wilderness, too. This only further proves you don't have a clue.
Coyotes live wherever they can including the suburbs.
Shows what little you know....
http://link.springer.com/article/10.100 ... 1-5#page-2
/\ That's an idiotic idea. Shitcago's CeaseFire program being adopted in Baltimore. Get ready to fill some body bags.
It's handwringing protectionist like yourselves that brought that era to an end long before I could enjoy it.
"Want for people's respect"? I carry mine concealed. How can a concealed handgun achieve that when it's out of sight? Unless you live in some commie state there are people all around you carrying a handgun.
News flash for ya: It's not about guns.
You'll have to excuse me for a while. I'm going to get my AR-15 out of the safe and do something irresponsible with it just to live up to your expectations of me.
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Guns aren't going anywhere. To say otherwise is just right wing propaganda to keep the crackers hating liberals.
So, you consider those who are pro gun ownership to be crackers??
No, not at all. I'm talking about those people who are manipulated by the right by their own willful ignorance. As a matter of fact, my dad had been a gun owner.
manipulated by the right lol nope. I get all my they want to take my guns straight from the liberal democrat's mouths saying we want to take your guns. some will say it out right, some will say it in private meetings, or anti gun gatherings. rather prefer the first to the second. at least they honest and upfront. then theres the laws they pass, had one in oregon that was all about taking guns, well 99% of them you could keep one, if you registered it, stored it in a safe at all times, and registered the safe location, oh and the police could once a year search anyones house to make sure they have just the one gun they said, or in case of non gun owners have 0 guns. luckly people weren't stupid and rejected this law, though some of the left really pushed for it.
I say again, I am not someone who favors gun bans, largely because they are not very cost-effective even where they actually work, partly because they are not really addressing the problem. The problem is not guns, but the problem is violence, full stop.
And that is why programs like Safe Streets and CeaseFire are so effective. They address the violence rather than the tools used in acts of violence. They actually work. They save people's lives. Moreover, they are highly popular.
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Define 'crazy'?
When one has to go out of one's way to settle a dispute with violence. That, and diagnosed mental illness.
I call the first one 'being violent'....as for diagnosed mental illness there is lots of variation amoung that and mental illness and violent individuals should not be lumped together as one and the same. One thing that might help this society is if people would quit acting like only someone with a mental illness can do something violent....its just not true.
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You seem to think that, just because I am actually concerned about violence and dangerous behavior, I must favor gun bans. I actually regard gun bans as wanting in terms of cost-effectiveness, and I am a strong advocate for programs that target violence in general, which ends up being considerably more cost-effective. Community outreach programs and attempting to change people's beliefs is actually surprisingly potent as far as reducing violence in our streets, and it might actually succeed in returning us to that era when our kids could take their long-guns to school and prop them in the corner and yet feel safe.
If you really can't tell the difference, then you are genuinely an idiot, which is simply a statement of fact. If you are putting on a pretense of being an idiot for the sake of baiting others, then you are a troll. More likely than either, you are a little of both.
Guns aren't going anywhere. To say otherwise is just right wing propaganda to keep the crackers hating liberals.
So, you consider those who are pro gun ownership to be crackers??
No, not at all. I'm talking about those people who are manipulated by the right by their own willful ignorance. As a matter of fact, my dad had been a gun owner.
manipulated by the right lol nope. I get all my they want to take my guns straight from the liberal democrat's mouths saying we want to take your guns. some will say it out right, some will say it in private meetings, or anti gun gatherings. rather prefer the first to the second. at least they honest and upfront. then theres the laws they pass, had one in oregon that was all about taking guns, well 99% of them you could keep one, if you registered it, stored it in a safe at all times, and registered the safe location, oh and the police could once a year search anyones house to make sure they have just the one gun they said, or in case of non gun owners have 0 guns. luckly people weren't stupid and rejected this law, though some of the left really pushed for it.
The ultimate goal of anti-gunners is the elimination of private gun ownership. Period. The cold hard fact is that it's impossible and they know that so they go after them incrementally. They ban them by type and features, go after hi-capacity magazines, go after ammo via taxes and storage restrictions, try and close shooting ranges under the cloak of public safety and environmental concerns, etc.
I did some research just for my own edification. What has primarily driven sales of "assault rifles" (not a real term) has been the anti-gunners screeching about them and trying to pass legislation. The AR-15, for example, has been on the civilian market since 1963 or 64 yet acceptance was relatively slow over the next few decades. It wasn't until the late 80's and 90's when the "we've gotta get these dangerous assault weapons of the streets!!" screeching began that sales went up. Furthermore in 2009 when anti-gun legislation was expected in the wake of the Obama inauguration. Again in 2012-13 after the school shooting in Connecticut. Tell people they can't have something or it's going to be banned and all the sudden they can't wait to get one (or two or three). The 2009 and 2012 triggered a huge surge in AR-15 and AK-47/AK-74 sales. You couldn't even find one to buy in any gun shop. Ammo in common calibers was horded by the 500 and 1000 round cases to where it was generally unavailable for over a year. It was a windfall of biblical proportions for the gun industry.
Lesson: If the antis had kept their collective mouths shut for the past 25 years there would be no significant number of "dangerous assault weapons" to fuss and whine about.
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You seem to think that, just because I am actually concerned about violence and dangerous behavior, I must favor gun bans. I actually regard gun bans as wanting in terms of cost-effectiveness, and I am a strong advocate for programs that target violence in general, which ends up being considerably more cost-effective. Community outreach programs and attempting to change people's beliefs is actually surprisingly potent as far as reducing violence in our streets, and it might actually succeed in returning us to that era when our kids could take their long-guns to school and prop them in the corner and yet feel safe.
If you really can't tell the difference, then you are genuinely an idiot, which is simply a statement of fact. If you are putting on a pretense of being an idiot for the sake of baiting others, then you are a troll. More likely than either, you are a little of both.
Ah, the troll accusation again.
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Define 'crazy'?
When one has to go out of one's way to settle a dispute with violence. That, and diagnosed mental illness.
so all the military and world leaders are crazy?
whats diagnosed mental illness? keep in mind its debated that aspergers is a mental illness.
He's an anti plain and simple. He won't come out and say it directly but he tapdences around it and drops little nuggets like "hey, I just don't want my kid getting shot" or the "crazy people (i.e. conservatives) with guns" thing like what we're seeing now.
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Mods, your incompetence and your unwillingness to curb this troll are among the reasons that the Internet continues to suck. As long as you attack those who call this jerk out and fail to deal with scumbags who provoke others for their childish amusement, this forum will never generate respectable discussion. I denounce you as incompetent. You are failures.
Because of my Dirty Harry avatar.
That's because we don't agree.....
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Mods, your incompetence and your unwillingness to curb this troll are among the reasons that the Internet continues to suck. As long as you attack those who call this jerk out and fail to deal with scumbags who provoke others for their childish amusement, this forum will never generate respectable discussion. I denounce you as incompetent. You are failures.
If I were a betting man I'd say you just cut your own throat with this one.
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Mods, your incompetence and your unwillingness to curb this troll are among the reasons that the Internet continues to suck. As long as you attack those who call this jerk out and fail to deal with scumbags who provoke others for their childish amusement, this forum will never generate respectable discussion. I denounce you as incompetent. You are failures.
Thank you very much on behalf of all of us incompetent failures, consider this a last public warning, next ad hom at "trolls" and "jerks" and "scumbags" will result in a permanent ban.
What were the Muslim people thinking?
- they knew he repeatedly blamed them for parking in his spot
- they knew he was persistently, a very angry person
- they knew he carried a gun
and yet they still taunted this guy by parking in his spot ?
I see this happen often in "road rage" incidents; it is not about right/wrong, legal/not legal, what matters is survival and these Muslims people seemed to lack the survival instinct.
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Define 'crazy'?
When one has to go out of one's way to settle a dispute with violence. That, and diagnosed mental illness.
so all the military and world leaders are crazy?
whats diagnosed mental illness? keep in mind its debated that aspergers is a mental illness.
Well, some clearly fit the bill.
And anyone who thinks Asperger's is a mental illness doesn't know what Asperger's really is.
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- they knew he repeatedly blamed them for parking in his spot
- they knew he was persistently, a very angry person
- they knew he carried a gun
and yet they still taunted this guy by parking in his spot ?
I see this happen often in "road rage" incidents; it is not about right/wrong, legal/not legal, what matters is survival. These Muslims people seemed to lack the survival instinct.
Wait a minute, now, are you blaming the victims? I could care less if he was being (allegedly) taunted; he didn't have to kill them. The fault lies solely with the shooter.
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i guess I'm a bit too sensitive for PPR if that's OK even for PPR
PPR has traditionally been a bit messy (i.e. ad homs, trolling, straw men, dog whistling flame baiting, etc).
Really, when a forum is created for the sole purpose of discussing politics, philosophy, and religion (especially politics and religion) a climate is created for incivility since people tend to be passionate about those.
Believe it or not, I agree with you!
shall we get a room for you two?
Well, I do recall Raptor saying he was becoming more accepting for the LGBT community .
But strictly on constitutional grounds and nothing further and even that is on thin ice.
How is extending rights and protections to American citizens who should have already had them going out on "thin ice?"
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