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Master_Pedant
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03 May 2011, 1:51 am

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We should add that the typical NPD voter live in Québec now.


I'm sure it'll go "the average NPD voter lives in Montreal, is slightly more likely to be female, and is between the ages of 25-45". after this "realignment" goes through. I sure hope the NDP/NPD doesn't end up like the ADQ after this.


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03 May 2011, 1:57 am

Master_Pedant wrote:
Tollorin wrote:
We should add that the typical NPD voter live in Québec now.


I'm sure it'll go "the average NPD voter lives in Montreal, is slightly more likely to be female, and is between the ages of 25-45". after this "realignment" goes through. I sure hope the NDP/NPD doesn't end up like the ADQ after this.


Not just Montreal: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadavotes2011/
58 of the ridings in Quebec went NDP, compared to only 7 Liberal (all on the island of Montreal), 6 Conservative and 4 Bloc (biggest shock of all)
If you zoom in on Montreal you can see Montreal is pretty split between Liberal and NDP with one Bloc riding in some crappy area. Most of the Anglo municipalities on the West Island went Liberal
I also hope it doesn't go ADQ, but I don't think it will go that way. The ADQ leadership was really bad (and of questionable background in some cases) and their positions were quite ambiguous


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03 May 2011, 2:37 am

Vigilans wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
Tollorin wrote:
We should add that the typical NPD voter live in Québec now.

I'm sure it'll go "the average NPD voter lives in Montreal, is slightly more likely to be female, and is between the ages of 25-45". after this "realignment" goes through. I sure hope the NDP/NPD doesn't end up like the ADQ after this.


Not just Montreal: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadavotes2011/
58 of the ridings in Quebec went NDP, compared to only 7 Liberal (all on the island of Montreal), 6 Conservative and 4 Bloc (biggest shock of all)
If you zoom in on Montreal you can see Montreal is pretty split between Liberal and NDP with one Bloc riding in some crappy area. Most of the Anglo municipalities on the West Island went Liberal
I also hope it doesn't go ADQ, but I don't think it will go that way. The ADQ leadership was really bad (and of questionable background in some cases) and their positions were quite ambiguous


I worry that the Dippers will get complacent with over half their caucus from Quebec and fail to realize what an essential task buildng the Party federally in the West is to stop Harper (since all the Provincial wings/gov'ts of the party are officially integrated with the Federal Party, then NDP should have access to a lot of logistical info from BC, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba where they form either the Official Opposition or Government).


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03 May 2011, 10:33 am

"If you zoom in on Montreal you can see Montreal is pretty split between Liberal and NDP with one Bloc riding in some crappy area."

I kind of happen to live in that crappy area, if you meant Ahuntsic. =.= -sigh- I voted for the NDP anyways, apparently Mme. Mourani won by 700 voices more than her closest contender.



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03 May 2011, 12:00 pm

I think the question must be, now and always, to whom does the center turn?

That was traditionally the Liberal's home turf--campaigning from the left and governing from the center. That strategy failed spectacularly, but that does not mean that the NDP now occupy that area--far from it. Nothing in yesterday's result suggests a shift to the right for the NDP--if anything, I see the likelihood of solid entrenchment on the left (and all to the good, says I, it is fertile ground for the NDP and should not be abandoned lightly).

Meanwhile, the Liberals are incapable of occupying anything, for the time being.

So that leave the Conservatives. If the Prime Minister is true to his game plan he will move quickly and forcefully to get a death grip on the center. There will be no moves on same-sex marriage, no moves on abortion, no moves on the death penalty. The Prime Minister will try to wrap himself in the warm and friendly garb of the old progressive conservative brand.

...and that is what frightens me about yesterday's result.


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23 May 2011, 1:50 am

phil777 wrote:
I kind of happen to live in that crappy area, if you meant Ahuntsic. =.= -sigh- I voted for the NDP anyways, apparently Mme. Mourani won by 700 voices more than her closest contender.


I wonder why the Bloc held on there. I don't know much about Mourani - did she have a particularly strong following? She sounds like she'd fit in the NDP caucus - looking at her bio.



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23 May 2011, 2:21 am

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The Liberals occupy a very solid position with university educated, affluent, urban Canadians. In fact, one of their difficulties in the last few years has been the erosion of their support among young progressive voters who are increasingly looking at the NDP and the Greens.


There is a certain "urban professional" demographic the Liberals seem to have retained (Rosedale, St. Paul's, Westmount, Van Quadra, etc.) - but it's a very narrow base. But their big voting demographics are gone. Catholics in English Canada are now Conservative, and the Liberals came third among nonwhite voters, behind the NDP and Conservatives.



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11 Jun 2011, 1:06 am

i wonder something,

i noticed that alot of the people that did get elected were clearly bad candidates. but people voted them in cause they wanted to vote a certain way ie NDP. alot of people with very little capability or experience.

I wonder if a aspie joined a party if they could just get voted in.

I know its not the typical job for an nt, but besides the socializing (which could probably be avoided) i think we would do a good job.

Giving speechs means little or no small talk and scripts.

it would be interesting. The idea of the control... but it there probably is very little that you could change from that position.



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23 May 2015, 7:05 am

With the recent NDP win in Alberta it will be interesting to watch and see if this translates to an NDP up surge federally.
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