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how much longer has america got before it fractures along social fault lines?
problems? what problems? :scratch: 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
not too much longer, find hiding places now :o 23%  23%  [ 10 ]
we will rise above our differences and unify within a few decades at most :star: 14%  14%  [ 6 ]
I don't know :shrug: 16%  16%  [ 7 ]
I believe things can continue just as they are :| 9%  9%  [ 4 ]
a tyrannical ruler will launch a coup and bang everybody's heads together, what other way is there? :star: :star: :star: :star: 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
I resent this line of questioning :x 7%  7%  [ 3 ]
just gimme my @#$% icecream :chef: 23%  23%  [ 10 ]
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27 Feb 2016, 12:40 am

I gotta know something- how can America survive long-term as a unified republic under one flag, when nobody can even agree on what the problems are or that there are even problems in the first place? thoughts, please :idea:



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27 Feb 2016, 1:01 am

Just spitballing - maybe it can't. The Roman empire fell under similar circumstances, IIRC.



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27 Feb 2016, 1:06 am

listening to "coast to coast" is giving me a pretty grim view of America's future. seems too few [not a critical mass] care enough to wanna fix our nation's problems, they just keep saying "mañana" and whistling past the graveyard.



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27 Feb 2016, 1:22 am

I figure our nation's problems are centered around the Washington DC area. Unfortunately there are far too many people willing to hand power over to charismatic sociopaths (on both sides of the aisle), or conflate blind obedience to proper procedure with morality, while evil people continually twist said procedure to their own ends. I don't think the nation can be salvaged, and frankly I don't think the people who allow this to continue are really worth saving. So, being just one person who cannot change this, I find it's helpful to divert my attention to other affairs



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27 Feb 2016, 1:25 am

you're a stronger person than me. the worst thing is seeing America fall amidst the ascension of other nations.



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27 Feb 2016, 1:26 am

I'd like for our problems to be fixed. But I have no power, and nobody cares what I think.

And I think both major political parties are too extreme, and too many regular people have extremist viewpoints. It seems nobody has any common sense, and everyone wants to argue and has to be right about everything.

People don't seem to want to work out differences in a civil and respectful manner; they seem to want to be hateful and make generalizations about other groups without attempting to understand.

And I mean this about people in this country in general. Not just certain demographics. I see it everywhere. It's very disheartening. It makes me not want to even bother trying.



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27 Feb 2016, 1:29 am

I suspect that despite the failure of our lamestream media to report this, the intelligentsia are oozing out of this nation towards safer shores, they've been quietly doing this for a while, the handwriting is on the wall and the devil take the hindmost.



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27 Feb 2016, 2:03 am

auntblabby wrote:
I gotta know something- how can America survive long-term as a unified republic under one flag, when nobody can even agree on what the problems are or that there are even problems in the first place? thoughts, please :idea:



Where do you live?

If America falls, I live in the Great Northwest so we'll continue on as Cascadia! 8)



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27 Feb 2016, 2:08 am

AR15000 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
I gotta know something- how can America survive long-term as a unified republic under one flag, when nobody can even agree on what the problems are or that there are even problems in the first place? thoughts, please :idea:

Where do you live? If America falls, I live in the Great Northwest so we'll continue on as Cascadia! 8)

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27 Feb 2016, 4:16 am

I sense someone trying to gaslight me into believing I said I'd buy an @#$% ice cream. But I can't have said so, because I didn't know that flavor.


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27 Feb 2016, 4:28 am

Over the next couple of decades Conservatism will likely die out in the US due to several significant demographic changes - decreased religiosity and a greater Latino and Asian share of the population being the most important.

Conservatives may be able to hang on in the House of Representatives for quite some time due to gerrymandering, but the Presidency and the Senate are both immune to such shenanigans and will adjust themselves to the new demographic reality much more quickly.

As such, the major fault line in US politics - the Liberal/Conservative divide and the political polarization it has created - is a temporary phenomenon largely created by the fallout from the 1964 US presidential election.

As such - despite the FUBAR state of current US politics - I am not overly pessimistic about the long-run trajectory of the US. All that's needed is a little...



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27 Feb 2016, 4:33 am

it can't happen soon enough :x



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27 Feb 2016, 5:37 am

auntblabby wrote:
listening to "coast to coast" is giving me a pretty grim view of America's future. seems too few [not a critical mass] care enough to wanna fix our nation's problems, they just keep saying "mañana" and whistling past the graveyard.


You get this from "Coast to Coast"??????????????

If you listen to too much "Coast to Coast" you'll end up convinced that the Earth is flat, that both Donald, and Hillary are Reptoids from Arcturus, and that your own shadow is about to strangle you! :lol:



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27 Feb 2016, 6:30 am

But Donald is a doubleplusgood ducktalker.


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27 Feb 2016, 9:23 am

When I saw the topic of the thread I thought it was about the Autism "community".


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27 Feb 2016, 11:18 am

Your last line got me thinking...

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