Asperger's Syndrome and The Third Eye
I am only one week into my diagnosis and my mind is on fire with connections. What do you all think about the multi-layered, multi-channel visual nature of our fractal thinking patterns possibly being the source of things like "the third eye".. "second sight"... "shaman's sickness".. "the mystic's noetic lightning"... "the philosopher's stone"... "mind reading"... "prognostication" etc, etc... My greatest passions other than gardening are philosophy, spirituality, mysticism, and ethnobotany... the combination of studying those topics in terms of the potential use of an aspie mind is just exhilarating me t the point of wanting to write a thesis immediately! Anyone else have ideas on this?
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“In the same way that you see a flower in a field, it’s really the whole field that is flowering, because the flower couldn’t exist in that particular place without the special surroundings of the field; you only find flowers in surroundings that will support them. So in the same way, you only find human beings on a planet of this kind, with an atmosphere of this kind, with a temperature of this kind- supplied by a convenient neighboring star. And so, as the flower is a flowering of the field, I feel myself as a personing- a manning- a peopling of the whole universe. –In other words, I, like everything else in the universe, seem to be a center… a sort of vortex, at which the whole energy of the universe realizes itself- comes alive… an aperture through which the whole universe is conscious of itself. In other words, I go with it as a center to a circumference.”~ Alan Watts
I don't relate personally.
In fact they way I think is almost the opposite: Sans qualia.
In fact the words used to describe thinking like "imagine", "visualise", "picture", etc are completely irrelevant to the way I think. They make no sense.
It is difficult to describe the way I think without a frame of reference. It used to bother me a lot, now I'm just curious what it looks like under fMRI.
Even if there is a lot of gesult/visual thinkers on the spectrum, that is not the whole story.
The only relatable thing is thing is we think differently.
I'm not sure there is a typical representation of thoughts on the spectrum.
I also think that spiritualism/mysticism is an overlap with the schizotypal spectrum. It just another nuerotype, it is not unusual or abnormal.
As a a hyper-analytical person, I have very little of that kind of thinking.
Yes, it is very fascinating to become aware of how different everyone's thought processes actually are. Before this epiphany in my life, I could not talk about consciousness and my psychological state. It is only after I began to read other aspies' accounts of their life experiences that I felt comfortable opining up to everyone around me about my peculiar inner world.
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“In the same way that you see a flower in a field, it’s really the whole field that is flowering, because the flower couldn’t exist in that particular place without the special surroundings of the field; you only find flowers in surroundings that will support them. So in the same way, you only find human beings on a planet of this kind, with an atmosphere of this kind, with a temperature of this kind- supplied by a convenient neighboring star. And so, as the flower is a flowering of the field, I feel myself as a personing- a manning- a peopling of the whole universe. –In other words, I, like everything else in the universe, seem to be a center… a sort of vortex, at which the whole energy of the universe realizes itself- comes alive… an aperture through which the whole universe is conscious of itself. In other words, I go with it as a center to a circumference.”~ Alan Watts
I've long had a sense of a kinda guiding intelligence within me that lets me see things as no others can see them, and which I have credited with navigating me safely through my life. When I was a kid, especially, there was a lot working against me.
I've also long had the sense that there is a monster inside me, that I must work to keep chained...
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"You have a responsibility to consider all sides of a problem and a responsibility to make a judgment and a responsibility to care for all involved." --Ian Danskin
Yes, that is one of the things that explains so much about my experience in school, where i was considered "the know it all"... and this combined with my being quiet, aloof, and possessing a number of the other social idiosyncrasies (including the infamous "aspie stare") and other deficits made me come off as an arrogant, self-absorbed jerk to my peers, which alienated me. I had always said i would trade half my brain for some social skill. However, I am glad everything has unfolded in the way it has. Thanks for joining my discussion 0 equals true.. hope to have many more with you in the future!
I know what you mean beneficci, I too have felt like there was a little monster in me... but the power of knowing who I am now is really going to help me use my super power for good!! !
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“In the same way that you see a flower in a field, it’s really the whole field that is flowering, because the flower couldn’t exist in that particular place without the special surroundings of the field; you only find flowers in surroundings that will support them. So in the same way, you only find human beings on a planet of this kind, with an atmosphere of this kind, with a temperature of this kind- supplied by a convenient neighboring star. And so, as the flower is a flowering of the field, I feel myself as a personing- a manning- a peopling of the whole universe. –In other words, I, like everything else in the universe, seem to be a center… a sort of vortex, at which the whole energy of the universe realizes itself- comes alive… an aperture through which the whole universe is conscious of itself. In other words, I go with it as a center to a circumference.”~ Alan Watts
I looked into mysticism and found it kinda empty, although there is a supernatural side to life.
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Have you listened to or read Alan Watts? He and Terence Mckenna are my greatest intellectual heroes.
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“In the same way that you see a flower in a field, it’s really the whole field that is flowering, because the flower couldn’t exist in that particular place without the special surroundings of the field; you only find flowers in surroundings that will support them. So in the same way, you only find human beings on a planet of this kind, with an atmosphere of this kind, with a temperature of this kind- supplied by a convenient neighboring star. And so, as the flower is a flowering of the field, I feel myself as a personing- a manning- a peopling of the whole universe. –In other words, I, like everything else in the universe, seem to be a center… a sort of vortex, at which the whole energy of the universe realizes itself- comes alive… an aperture through which the whole universe is conscious of itself. In other words, I go with it as a center to a circumference.”~ Alan Watts
I looked into spiritualism and the "supernatural", and found it all to be very profitable. Astrology and Tarot especially so. You only have to listen to your clients, make a few intelligent guesses based on their appearances, repeat back what they've said as you throw in a few "psychic" buzzwords like "avatar", "chakra", "recursive karma", "second sight", "third eye", et cetera, and they will believe that you have the gifts of of Prophesy, Discernment of Spirits, and Word of Wisdom all at once!
Then you charge them $50 for thirty minutes and send them on their way.
It's way too easy!
i'm an astrologer and am generally into the mystical undertones of life, but i aim to apply structure to all my studies. there is a system to everything, and i'm more interested in discovering and working within those systems than allowing myself to be led by fancy.. i see astrology and other mystical arts/sciences as the blueprints of life on earth and in this universe, not beyond earth
It's an interesting topic, really.
As with a great many things, when it comes to the supernatural, I just say: "I havent the foggiest damn clue". As I really just dont know. Lack of evidence in either direction. But I acknowledge the possibility of it, and also the possibility that it isnt there.
I have, however, thought of that whole state of mind and types of thought processes bit that can lead to this maybe.
In my case, I'm *really* good at knowing stuff that, logically, I shouldnt be able to. Or knowing that something is going to happen just a bit before it does, which has saved me more than a couple of times (while driving, naturally, as it's the only thing I ever do that could be considered "dangerous").
As it is, that I can do this tends to bother everyone I know, as it means they cant really keep secrets from me, or surprise me with things. I can also use it to manipulate situations.
Did that bit alot way back when, when I used to work but went through jobs like tissue paper. Each job was different from the last. And during the interview process, each interviewer was also different from the last, as was the things they wanted to hear, since they wanted to hear those things that would fit the specific job the best.
But it didnt matter WHAT they wanted to hear... whatever it was, I would know about it. And so, every time, I gave them exactly whatever it was that they wanted to hear, even if it didnt always make a big pile of sense to me. As a result, while GETTING an interview could be difficult... all those damn applications that I haaaaaaated dealing with so much... once I *had* one, I always got the job. I'd given them exactly what they wanted, so of course they'd hire me.
That it never actually worked out once I was hired is a different matter...
There's a variety of other tricks I can do along this line, but you get the idea.
But what I always wondered is: Why/how can I do this? Surely there must be a reason.
The factor of autism did occur to me more than a few times It basically makes the mind different, yes? In that those with it tend to simply have very different ways of thinking, different lines of logic that they go down, and things like that. The theory I came up with was that maybe it was some form of advanced extrapolation, that I was just doing without actively thinking about or noticing it. Which in a way makes sense... when you can do something without effort, you dont always even notice that you're doing it, which can sometimes make it appear a little weird.
But IS that how it works? Or is there some other convoluted explanation that, frankly, I probably wouldnt understand? Heck if I know. It is only a theory, and it has some holes in it, so... yeah. I dont know. It's an interesting topic, but it's also quite baffling. But then, I think lots of things are baffling, really...
The subject is very interesting. I am still in the infancy of researching Asperger's syndrome, but I have been reading about the possibility that it involves unusual "wiring" of the brain... which can result in a wide variety of symptoms (the spectrum!!). I have read it referred to as the "highly connected brain"... and one video I watched that fascinated me talked about how this "neuro-diverse, highly connected brain" could be the next step in the evolution of consciousness, because of some of the adaptive advantages in intelligence... that is if we can adapt to social environments (constraint on our ability to have "reproductive fitness" to be frank XD.)
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“In the same way that you see a flower in a field, it’s really the whole field that is flowering, because the flower couldn’t exist in that particular place without the special surroundings of the field; you only find flowers in surroundings that will support them. So in the same way, you only find human beings on a planet of this kind, with an atmosphere of this kind, with a temperature of this kind- supplied by a convenient neighboring star. And so, as the flower is a flowering of the field, I feel myself as a personing- a manning- a peopling of the whole universe. –In other words, I, like everything else in the universe, seem to be a center… a sort of vortex, at which the whole energy of the universe realizes itself- comes alive… an aperture through which the whole universe is conscious of itself. In other words, I go with it as a center to a circumference.”~ Alan Watts
I wonder if any of you have seen "the boy with the amazing brain!?"
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“In the same way that you see a flower in a field, it’s really the whole field that is flowering, because the flower couldn’t exist in that particular place without the special surroundings of the field; you only find flowers in surroundings that will support them. So in the same way, you only find human beings on a planet of this kind, with an atmosphere of this kind, with a temperature of this kind- supplied by a convenient neighboring star. And so, as the flower is a flowering of the field, I feel myself as a personing- a manning- a peopling of the whole universe. –In other words, I, like everything else in the universe, seem to be a center… a sort of vortex, at which the whole energy of the universe realizes itself- comes alive… an aperture through which the whole universe is conscious of itself. In other words, I go with it as a center to a circumference.”~ Alan Watts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U09O9DXWdHc
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“In the same way that you see a flower in a field, it’s really the whole field that is flowering, because the flower couldn’t exist in that particular place without the special surroundings of the field; you only find flowers in surroundings that will support them. So in the same way, you only find human beings on a planet of this kind, with an atmosphere of this kind, with a temperature of this kind- supplied by a convenient neighboring star. And so, as the flower is a flowering of the field, I feel myself as a personing- a manning- a peopling of the whole universe. –In other words, I, like everything else in the universe, seem to be a center… a sort of vortex, at which the whole energy of the universe realizes itself- comes alive… an aperture through which the whole universe is conscious of itself. In other words, I go with it as a center to a circumference.”~ Alan Watts
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