Ethics of Neutering

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Here's the thing. People are fascist, and they are gonna force their philosophy down our throats. Nothing we can do.

If they go around saying they want to cut off our balls, nothing we can do. The word freedom means absolutely nothing to them. We are victims and subjects that have to obey whatever random whims come into their head that day.

If I say, I don't think people or animals should have their balls cut off, they will attack me and tell me to obey their philosophy.

ironically, these people may also go on and on about Consent. But the consent they refer to is only a very limited form of Consent that applies to certain exclusive situations. Their idea of consent does not extend anywhere beyond that. if for example, I complain that me being circumcised as a child, violates my consent, they will blow me off and tell me how in this case, my consent is irrelevant and goes out the window.

Thank you all for your lovely and highly educated comments about why animals shouldn't be neutered, it just proves why most humans are idiots and I hate them and they NEED to be castrated.

Hmm does your fascism on display make you feel proud of yourself.
do you want to be recognized in history as a brutal dictator who cared not for anyone's opinions but their own.

Personally, I'm rather amused by how people screeching how we shouldn't neuter animals seem just fine with killing animals, either actively or passively.

Neutering bad. Killing good. Gotcha.

This conundrum is in the "Life of Pi," when a pious vegan has to feed a tiger.

The humane carnivore wouldn't take sadistic pleasure in eating them, be wasteful of their remains, or mismanage live animals, which he holds in captivity.

I find it just as contradictory, to advocate animal rights and sever healthy body parts.

I see feral housepets, interacting with humans in much the same respect as wildlife. They fill an ecological niche, and stop at that, with an occasional hand-up, like you might give to an injured, wild animal. My sister cleans up their eyes and give them back to their mothers, when the leftists say to mercy-kill it.

Another ignorant comment and a slanderous Lie.

I am a vegetarian.
Are you a vegetarian?
I don't believe we should neuter or kill animals. Let them roam free. Why should humans be allowed to overpopulate, but if animals overpopulate and overrun the city everyone freaks and panics? Let the animals have their rites.

Rights, not "rites."

And there's a host of problems with setting all of our pets "free." You're basically just letting them die passively as opposed to actively killing them.

It just reinforces my notion that animal "rights" people don't know much at all about animals and are more interested in being anti-human than pro-animal.

Yes,and then people think that all folks interested in animal welfare are that way.
If you go and open the doors of a chicken house and turn the residents free they will just stand around passively,no wandering off interesting a feild to love a happy carefree life..Since they are domesticated breed that has a heavy body they can't fly,so they would just sit on the ground and get devoured by any wild animal or dog that comes along.
Not saying chicken houses are a good thing,they aren't.
The point,these are domesticated animals,most can't survive on their own.A few like cats or goats may susccesfully go feral,much to the detriment of native species they eat or compete with.
I was vegan for years,now occasionally eat meat.Think of me as an opportunivore.
I have also taken been a caretaker of many animals over the years,cows,goats,geese,guineas,ducks,dogs,cats,a horse,mammoth burro,chickens,etc...The majority would have starved if I just let them go free.

Nope.

I intentionally chose Rites.

Mizzlizard, explain to me this.

Why neuter a domesticated animal, if it has no female in the house with it.

And why castrate it. Why not neuter in some sane and civilized way?

Oh the answer is simple. The human race is insane.

Simple: because you have absolutely no guarantee that that animal is never going to get out and have contact with a female.

And many pet owners own multiple pets.

Female animals menstruate (in the house) and go into heat (loudly, at night). The males are supposed to become aggressive and escape, whether or not they live with prospective mates.

I have never generally seen any uncommon messes or any animal go completely out of control, except when there is a competition. For instance, where they are bred, there is only one male, and a pecking order, between females -- mostly consisting of posturing.

Noone particularly neuters the racoons, rabbits, and squirrels, and (all liberal hypochondria aside) they find their dens, never to cause any realistic social problems, for us humans. As pets, you would spend money on a carpet shampoo and to get them sewn-up, occasionally, to be frank.

female rats are particularly prone to hormonal tumors and so spaying them increases their quality of life. i have seen first hand how large and awful, an de immobilizing, mammary tumors can be. and the neurological, and then horrifically physical effect of pituitary tumors. it makes sense to spay the ladies.

and it made sense to neuter my outdoor cat, because who knows how many p*****s he came in contact with.

i'd say if there is a better reason to do it than not to do it, do it.

If someone has a pet that never comes in contact with another then maybe not get them fixed.Thats not always an option,in rural areas dogs and cats usually run loose with no fence.In the 'burbs someone may leave a gate open or a cat shoot out the door.Some have a tendency to wander off looking for another male or female.Ive had male dogs show up here to visit my girls before they got fixed,they can smell a female for miles.Its also not safe for dogs to go wandering,there are some jerks that may not like a strange dog showing up in their yard.Or they could get onto a fight with another male over a female.This happened to my daughters little weinee dog,he got into it with a big dog over a female and was injured so badly he had to be put down.It was devastating to her.She was out of town when it happened and didn't get to say goodbye to her beloved dog.
I'm not sure if there is any method to castrate without removing the testicles.

There are pro's and con's.

But, I am not one to "fix" what is not broken.

I eat meat, only because I have to. I think I could make vegetarian food taste really good, and I would enjoy eating it, but it's an inefficient way support a large, muscular, active body.

I consider elective surgery a ghastly thing, and would tend to give animals, used for whichever purpose, as much dignity as possible.