What Religion are you?

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Fiona, I think he's saying he doesn't understand how aspies, with our tendency to think things out logically, can be Fundamentalist, as in believe that such-and-such book is absolute truth no matter how much science and pesky facts get in the way. Thats something very different from being religious IMO. I can read a story like the Good Samaritan or the Book of Job and find a lot of meaning in it, but I don't believe that Heaven and Hell exist as literal places.

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Since I picked other I guess I need to specify. Pantheism/panpsychism are appealing to me. That's the concept that the universe is god, or more to my beliefs that god is something we use to ascribe meaning to the universe. I believe god is merely a concept - at least as far as we can know ever know it. We're just a part of this universe and can never truly grasp the whole thing. I find value in many religious teachings, but I find most "religions" to be stifling at best.

At some level fundamentalism is a part of all religion, since by definition religion is ultimately differentiated by the position of simply "having faith" in some concept rather than regarding that concept as something that is testable or which might be changed if you learn something new.

My thinking tends to be very rooted in what I can interact with and I don't understand how someone can hold a position of unquestioning faith.

:: Mark

i agree with abominable - fundamentalism does not equate with being religious (i prefer "spiritual", myself).

and mark - i don't agree that fundamentalism is necessarily part of an individual's religion/path. if you are saying that there is the potential for it in any path which has a set of rules, then i do agree. however, i also believe that one has the responsiblity to test one's beliefs (or whatever) by questioning them, otherwise we are no more than sheep, thinking as someone else decrees we should.

and this doesn't mean that, because you find one or two things on which you and your religion don't agree, you chuck the whole lot out. there's room in any path for variations in stuff. only fundies say that there isn't.

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While I can see what others are saying, I tend to go with Mark here. I can't see the social/tribal aspect of religion having anything to do with aspies( are you the sort of person who joins things if it seems remotely "good"), a coherent body of thought with PROOF to back it up I'd admit would sway me. The problem I have with the emotional aspect of it is that it still demands some faith, and I don't have any of that. I can see as many truths in almost anything I read or see as I can in the religious works I've read. (Although I can't even watch TV ads anymore because the claims for 70% shinier hair and years various products will take from people ( should we start a horoscope adjustment industry to support the cosmetics industry?) and 1001 things that they present as scientific.) If I can't get through a 20 second commercial without raising questions ( and bloodpressure) how can I accept the collected works of the faithful passed down through generations? Show me the proof and quote several independant sources, don't show me thousands of factions, each with it's own special relationship with it's deity and inside knowledge of what it's all about.
Religious works (like adverts) are written to be self revealing, to appear to provide self evident truths. I want data.

My religion


§ what is described here may be true or false, it is just belief
§ the soul is energy
§ the soul is the true self
§ the soul is eternal and indestructable
§ the body is destructable and will perish
§ there are either one or infinite number of possibilities
§ there may exist one universe for every possibility
§ there can be a belief on the soul without belief on god
§ god is not a necessity
§ human mind can not comprehend universe completly
§ human mind can not comprehend time and space completly
§ the soul can exist with or without a material body
§ the soul in conjunction with body have something that the soul lack
§ matter is not eternal
§ energy is eternal
§ the soul in conjunction with body is called life
§ energy can not be created or seize to exist
§ energy can only be transformed from one form to another
§ matter exist in linear time
§ energy exist in non-linear time
§ the soul exist in non-linear time
§ the soul can be excited to an angel
§ the soul can exist back in linear time to warn of future events
§ what happen one by death must be universal to all death
§ the soul can not be seen by material eye
§ the soul can be sensed by other souls
§ some material bodies is closer connected to the soul than others
§ healing is to send and receive soul energy
§ the soul can be sensed by the q-sense
§ some higher lifeforms have q-sense other have not
§ the energy of the soul is the cause to the birth of our universe
§ there are a fixed number of souls or soulenergy in the universe
§ if there are infinite number of universe there are infinite soulenergy
§ the soul do not have a shape or form
§ souls without conjunction to matter can influence souls with conjunction to matter
§ the existance can not be explaned
§ the soul can possess matter for a limited amount of time
§ the soul can possess matter many times
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§ autism is the most inner of the soul and the autistic soul takes a material body with the right configuration i the shape and such

I was raised atheist and Asian animist with Buddhist influences, but I'm Christian now because I found it to be the most logical religion (IMO).

I am Christian, but not Fundamentalist. Conservative, perhaps, but far from fundamentalist.

By the way, does anyone here know what Buddhism entails? I'm just curious about other people's beliefs and I know there are at least a few Buddhists here at WP, like stlf.

I'm an agnostic. Don't know, don't care, don't like getting up early on Sundays. I used to be a fundamentalist when I was younger thanks to my father.

I guess if I had to be some sort of Christian, I'd have to consider myself a somewhat Liberal Christian. Wow, that almost sounds like a contradiction given the current mainstream Christian beliefs.

yeah it sounds a bit like an oxymoron doesn't it? but christianity isn't bad in itself, if you go by what Jesus is supposed to have said. but mostly i find the bible to be full of crap.

I know some very liberal Christians and some very conservative atheists. What is wrong with that?

Catholic, with a traditionalist streak; I prefer the Tridentine Mass.

N.B.:
Please don't send me any Jack Chick tracts; I have them all (but I will send you a free scapular for each infidel name you give me for entry into the giant Vatican computer).

PMSL!!

oh, thousands of points to you, Cato.

The Jesuit/Masonic/Marxist/Nazi/Zionist conspiracy is no laughing matter! People need to know about this Satanic plot to drain our precious bodily fluids and...oops...I said too much...must put tin foil hat on to ward off evil radio beams from Vatican aliens...