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04 Jul 2018, 8:14 am

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American liberals don't "love" China. They just want to coexist pragmatically with China.

Engaging in a trade war with China----or with Canada---is not smart policy.

Cause all they do is sit around making up lies about Russia rigging everything while we know China hacks us. When China takes land they do it in their uniforms proudly and no one cares, but Russia tries to hide it and the left demands action,
Why ? Russia and China are close allies, so why favor one and hate the other?

For the record, the Russians and the Chinese have a history of conflict, so one can hardly call them allies.
As far as any U.S. Administration doing anything about China, too many people are making too much money in the short term for them to address long term problems.


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04 Jul 2018, 6:09 pm

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With Putin influencing Trump to pull out of NATO, I think it's obvious he want to ultimately expand Russian influence to the Atlantic. Whether that's a military invasion, or simply establishing increasingly right wing Strongman regimes to replace democratic governments in western and central Europe remains to be seen. I'm more likely to err on the side of the latter, though neither option is acceptable.


:lmao: :lmao:


As if Putin hasn't been working on destabilizing western democracies by supporting anti-democratic nationalists already.


And what's the evidence for that? Nothing. Everyone is enjoying the Russian world cup and all the pre propaganda has fallen apart. No one is buying these fairy tales anymore.


The House Intelligence Committee certainly thinks there was collusion with Russia, which includes Trump allies.
There has been plenty of intelligence reports supporting the accusation that Russia has been supporting right wing nationalists in European and American elections, because Putin expects them to show their gratitude while weakening the western military and trade alliances.


Thinking and accusing is not evidence. Very odd that the same voices have accused Putin of helping Jeremy Cornyn doing so well in the UK last year. Corbyn is an old lefty socialist. Maybe it is that people in the West have had enough of the establishment figures and they want real change, whether that candidate is going to bring it or not. People believe they are. That's why Corbyn, Trump and Sanders have all been popular. Nothing to do with Russia. People are sick of political robots.


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04 Jul 2018, 10:08 pm

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With Putin influencing Trump to pull out of NATO, I think it's obvious he want to ultimately expand Russian influence to the Atlantic. Whether that's a military invasion, or simply establishing increasingly right wing Strongman regimes to replace democratic governments in western and central Europe remains to be seen. I'm more likely to err on the side of the latter, though neither option is acceptable.


:lmao: :lmao:


As if Putin hasn't been working on destabilizing western democracies by supporting anti-democratic nationalists already.


And what's the evidence for that? Nothing. Everyone is enjoying the Russian world cup and all the pre propaganda has fallen apart. No one is buying these fairy tales anymore.


The House Intelligence Committee certainly thinks there was collusion with Russia, which includes Trump allies.
There has been plenty of intelligence reports supporting the accusation that Russia has been supporting right wing nationalists in European and American elections, because Putin expects them to show their gratitude while weakening the western military and trade alliances.


Thinking and accusing is not evidence. Very odd that the same voices have accused Putin of helping Jeremy Cornyn doing so well in the UK last year. Corbyn is an old lefty socialist. Maybe it is that people in the West have had enough of the establishment figures and they want real change, whether that candidate is going to bring it or not. People believe they are. That's why Corbyn, Trump and Sanders have all been popular. Nothing to do with Russia. People are sick of political robots.


The Intelligence Committee did a lot more than just think and accuse.
Putin will support anyone he sees as destabilizing.
Trump is Putin's robot.


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08 Jul 2018, 2:09 pm

Lol. "Highly likely" and "with confidence" means nothing, despite how much you want the fantasies to be true.

Yeah as we have already established. Trump has only just Russia. He's Israel's puppet.


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08 Jul 2018, 2:12 pm

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Lol. "Highly likely" and "with confidence" means nothing, despite how much you want the fantasies to be true.

Yeah as we have already established. Trump has only just Russia. He's Israel's puppet.


Or is it that you're just in denial?


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08 Jul 2018, 2:14 pm

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Lol. "Highly likely" and "with confidence" means nothing, despite how much you want the fantasies to be true.

Yeah as we have already established. Trump has only just Russia. He's Israel's puppet.


Or is it that you're just in denial?


Oh the IRONY.


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08 Jul 2018, 3:08 pm

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Lol. "Highly likely" and "with confidence" means nothing, despite how much you want the fantasies to be true.

Yeah as we have already established. Trump has only just Russia. He's Israel's puppet.


Or is it that you're just in denial?


Oh the IRONY.


You hate Israel, but you still defend Trump at every turn. I'd say that's irony.


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08 Jul 2018, 4:49 pm

Replying to the original question: No.

Russia is barely surviving as a coherent nation and has an ecomomy the size of Italy. All its actions in the last few years have been defensive in nature. Even if Putin's wildest dreams came true and US forces leave Europe, NATO collapses along with the European Union, Russia still does not have the resources to invade and retain Eastern Europe for any length of time.


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09 Jul 2018, 4:34 pm

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Lol. "Highly likely" and "with confidence" means nothing, despite how much you want the fantasies to be true.

Yeah as we have already established. Trump has only just Russia. He's Israel's puppet.


Or is it that you're just in denial?


Oh the IRONY.


You hate Israel, but you still defend Trump at every turn. I'd say that's irony.


I've criticised Trump loads. Mostly for being Netanyahu's groupie. If the SJW's actually criticised Trump for the right reasons he might not have crazed neocons like John Bolton beside him.


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09 Jul 2018, 8:09 pm

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Lol. "Highly likely" and "with confidence" means nothing, despite how much you want the fantasies to be true.

Yeah as we have already established. Trump has only just Russia. He's Israel's puppet.


Or is it that you're just in denial?


Oh the IRONY.


You hate Israel, but you still defend Trump at every turn. I'd say that's irony.


I've criticised Trump loads. Mostly for being Netanyahu's groupie. If the SJW's actually criticised Trump for the right reasons he might not have crazed neocons like John Bolton beside him.


Well, I guess I'm just not reading the right thread where you attack Trump.
And just what's wrong with the so called SJW's attacks on the orange one?


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10 Jul 2018, 3:02 pm

Just doesn't fit your narrative. You actually questioned me when I did slate Trump. I did so each time he bombed Syria. When he scrapped the Iran deal. When he moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem. It is disgraceful that he is dropping an insane amount of bombs. More than Obama.
They are real reasons to criticise him. Not cause of his skin colour, hair or cause he said something 'offensive'.


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10 Jul 2018, 5:08 pm

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Just doesn't fit your narrative. You actually questioned me when I did slate Trump. I did so each time he bombed Syria. When he scrapped the Iran deal. When he moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem. It is disgraceful that he is dropping an insane amount of bombs. More than Obama.
They are real reasons to criticise him. Not cause of his skin colour, hair or cause he said something 'offensive'.


Yet you seemingly cling to Trump's man boob like a babe to it's mother's breast.


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10 Jul 2018, 5:13 pm

:lol: :lol:

Yeah right. He's entertaining and actually does some stuff for his own country. He's a puppet but a much more independent one.


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10 Jul 2018, 7:22 pm

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:lol: :lol:

Yeah right. He's entertaining and actually does some stuff for his own country. He's a puppet but a much more independent one.


As I am an American, let's see what he's delivered on...

Healthcare for all - no.
That idiotic wall - no (thankfully).
Cracking down on Wall Street - no.
Starting a trade war we can win - very unlikely we'll win it.
Bringing back jobs - no, either just taking credit for Obama's accomplishments, or convincing business to help one sector while letting another die.
That damn tax cut - yes, if you're rich, no if you're everyone else getting a temporary cut.

I could go on and on, but it's just too depressing.


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11 Jul 2018, 6:29 pm

What did Obama do in 8 years after promising to bring the troops home? "Take that to the bank".

He instead bombs Pakistan after 3 days in office. Watches like a spineless coward and lets Israel bombs schools and hospitals in Gaza. He triples the war in Afghanistan. Carries on in Iraq. Bombs numerous other countries. Drone bombs innocent civilians, including Americans. Supports Al Qaeda in Libya to remove the leader. Tries to support Al Qaeda and ISIS in Syria to remove the leader there. Sells weapons the Saudi Arabia as they starve to death thousands of children.

Shall I continue?


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11 Jul 2018, 6:31 pm

Trump said he would scrap the Iran deal. He did. He said he would get out of TPP. He did. He said he would stop funding Al Qaeda in Syria, he did. That's better alone than anything the pathetic Obama puppet did already.


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