Leftist Agenda in Academia explained
Where does this basic income come from if no one has to work? Where do taxes come from if no one has to work? Where does food come from if no one is growing it?
People still have incentive to work even with Basic Income in place.
And with work you get wages, with wages come taxes.
Why does everybody assume that nobody would work if they could get a free meal?
If housing, food, medical aid and other basic neccessities are met, people automatically assume people would stop working.
I find it hard to understand that "logic". If anything, if you get a free meal and society put trust in you and have faith that you will do your best, you would do your best including work, if you can.
People always assume those on welfare are the worst criminals ever, and that disabled people should be treated like criminals, who should be forced to work.
I find that kind of reasoning difficult to understand.
In addition, I generally find it hard to understand the following "logic":
"If everybody acted like you this and this would happen".
- but nobody are like you or me or anybody else! Nobody are like everybody else. We are all different.
With your logic, society would indeed collapse. Enough people will choose not to work that the producers will be out numbered by the parasites. What kind of people would be stupid enough to be productive, if the vast majority of the fruits of thier labors are stolen from them? This has been proven by the failures of communist countries.
Welfare is for the disabled, and those who need temporary. help. Those who are able in body and mind, and are on welfare, are definied in the dictionary as parasitical. Again by definition, parasites demand more and more of thier host, until it dies.
Do you think lice, ticks, and other parasites deserve to live on your body?
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Why does everybody assume that nobody would work if they could get a free meal?
If housing, food, medical aid and other basic neccessities are met, people automatically assume people would stop working.
You are losing credibility at a rate of knots here...
"Everbody"?
Are you using hyperbole?
Do you deny that *some* abuse the system and think it fine to live on other people's work ethic?
Hence the need to introduce harsher incentives to get these social parasites out into the work force?
I find it hard to understand that "logic". If anything, if you get a free meal and society put trust in you and have faith that you will do your best, you would do your best including work, if you can.
That is a very naive statement...
Once again, how old are you?
People always assume those on welfare are the worst criminals ever, and that disabled people should be treated like criminals, who should be forced to work.
Matey, at this point you have no credibility with me if you continue to use gross stereotypical nonsense...
No, most people don't assume those on welfare are the worst criminals ever, and that disabled people should be treated like criminals, who should be forced to work.
I dare say that most people think that you are tunnel visioned and refuse to have a more balanced view on this subject
- but nobody are like you or me or anybody else! Nobody are like everybody else. We are all different.
Well, I agree that there is no one like you...
At least we agree on something...<sigh>
I'm not saying the numbers don't add up, leftists probably do outnumber the righties in academia. With that in mind, does that mean there's a leftist agenda?
I wouldn't say so.
It seems that the majority of scientifically illiterate world beliefs, such as creationism, evolution denial and climate change denial, are almost exclusively conservative. Some theories are leftist in nature, but the most prominent right now seem to be conservative. Could we say this is due to scientific illiteracy and an inability or refusal to educate oneself? I'd say so.
Universities are essentially open areas of education and discussing, debate and protest. In my opinion, they're the most open areas in the world for such things. As a result, you'll see a lot of railing against the corrupting power which, even when such overall power becomes minuscule, will always be conservative due to its tendency to place too much money and influence in the hands of the rich.
Liberals are vocal, and have conviction. A bad thing? Not really.
As for courses, I don't know what happens in sociological studies which lead to Marxist beliefs but it's not my understanding that students become "brainwashed", rather as an intellectual collection of individuals they are more likely to assess both sides and, due to the possible likelihood of being generally liberal, perhaps adopt more extreme socialist views on policy.
That doesn't mean they have to. I don't think students are told straight to their face that Marx was 100% correct, that's absurd.
What's more, as I stated on the previous thread, conservatives are more likely to seek business ventures and fund their own entrepreneurism. I've heard they're more likely to drop out than liberals due to this spirit. There's nothing wrong with that, but as conservatives they rely on free market principles and take advantage of them. Liberals, at least just at a guess, would be more likely to find themselves in public service and STEM.
So, more liberals graduating university means more liberal qualifications. More liberal qualifications means more liberal professors. More liberal professors leads to this belief about bias.
Sure, by sheer numbers, I agree. But by ideological indoctrination, I find it unlikely. I personally haven't experienced it. Unless allowing people to enjoy LGBTQ rights or furthering minority rights is liberal, of course, in which case maybe.
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It seems that the majority of scientifically illiterate world beliefs, such as creationism, evolution denial and climate change denial, are almost exclusively conservative. Some theories are leftist in nature, but the most prominent right now seem to be conservative. Could we say this is due to scientific illiteracy and an inability or refusal to educate oneself? I'd say so.
Are you familiar with Jonathan Haidt at all? If not you might want to familiarize yourself with his work, Heterodox Academy, etc. to get a sense of what the viewpoint looks like among center-left and left academics who believe there is an unhealthy bias in the current system.
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There is a strong left-wing Agenda in pretty much any organization funded by the state, which of course includes state-funded education. This is NOT because of the inherent truthfulness of left-wing dogma, which in the main, is infantile nonsense, it is simply a question of money. The right generally favors small government and self-reliance and that of course kills state funded jobs. The justifications of the left for huge state organizations boil down to an extended plea not to have to go out into the world and find a job in the private sector. Many of the denizens of academia are of course utterly unemployable in the real world. Does anybody think there is a demand for someone who is an expert in Gender Studies, without a state subsidy, for example? Of course not. The same can be said for countless other subjects taught across Europe and North America. There is, however, a demand for Engineers, Chemists, Biologists etc., which the First World does not produce enough of and has been importing from outside for decades now. I speak as someone with two History Degrees, who has taught at University level and works in the State Sector. When I was working at a University, a good 80% of the staff were left-wing.
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Where does this basic income come from if no one has to work? Whre do taxes come from if no one hase to work? Where does food come from if no one is growing it?[/quote]
People want to work. We have an allegedly booming economy but increasing automation, and increasing income inequality. Agricultural corporations grow our food. We can afford to let that money count for something, and not just let it reinforce an elite ruling class.
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Jonathan Haidt and Greg Lukianoff interviewed by Nick Gillespie on their new book Coddling of the American Mind.
I think the point underscored here are that there serious problems taking place, the right is also having a moral panic, the two shouldn't be confused nor should one cancel the other.
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Another phobe butt-hurt about having to take a gender studies class, get over it dude.
Universities just teach you the truth.
Generally, people are more likely to be politically progressive if they are in history or political science.
Most of the university-educated conservatives are probably in engineering or computer science.
They’d teach you the truth as they see it.
Where does this basic income come from if no one has to work? Whre do taxes come from if no one hase to work? Where does food come from if no one is growing it?
People want to work. We have an allegedly booming economy but increasing automation, and increasing income inequality. Agricultural corporations grow our food. We can afford to let that money count for something, and not just let it reinforce an elite ruling class.[/quote]
What do we do when 80% or more of the popcant work cause of automation?
Retail and fast food is automating and they make up a lot of jobs in the USA. They building lawyers ai, consoling ai, mechanics will be replaced by robots. Truck divers are going be replaced by self driven trucks. Every single job besides ceos are replaceable by technology. So we either pay everyone of those 80% income or we kill them all in a mass genocide. I bet the elite will pick the 2nd
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Left-Wing Agenda, is it ? Right-Wingers, you say ? Well, from what I see, the whole entire system is a Bird-Brained agenda being promoted everywhere. The Left Wing and the Right Wing are just two sides of the same BIRD after all. Researching two sides of an issue ? Try researching ALL aspects of an issue. Sheesh...
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Retail and fast food is automating and they make up a lot of jobs in the USA. They building lawyers ai, consoling ai, mechanics will be replaced by robots. Truck divers are going be replaced by self driven trucks. Every single job besides ceos are replaceable by technology. So we either pay everyone of those 80% income or we kill them all in a mass genocide. I bet the elite will pick the 2nd
They will take over the CEO's jobs as well.....
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The resources and technologies exist to be able to sustain everybody and not leave anybody to poverty; the main problem is the «corrupt» mentality of those control-freaks who want more for themselves and less for everybody else... (this was mentioned by George Carlin which one can look up for themselves; should be plenty of YouTube videos and lots of people in the comments-section who've done their homework to confirm its validity).
Food can be automatically grown with the now-existing technology. Electricity could also be easily produced/generated for everybody without cost but «greedy banksters» who OWN all you SLAVES don't care about you (once again, listen to George Carlin, and read the comments-section). Anyway... this is an example of automatic food-growing technology...
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Left agenda? Right agenda?
How about robot overlord agenda!
Let us bow to our silicon masters fellow coppertops
Automate everything!
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