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Zinnia86
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26 Jan 2019, 1:41 am

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This topic is about Trump's halfway accomplishments.

I quoted US government immigration statistics that Trump (ICE) has been very successful at targeting "Bad Hombre" criminal illegal aliens.

You seem emotionally-invested in the plight of illegal aliens.

However, regardless, most people like when law enforcement arrest/deport "Bad Hombres" (like the Mexican national I cited earlier that promoted children into prostitution).

The facts, as you say, "there are millions of illegal aliens" and "statistically, the arrested are a small percent", logically, doesn't detract from Trump's accomplishment of removing the few that are.

You appear new to PPR, and your posts are very personal, twice you have made an issue of my username moniker. However, here, we are very logical, and non-personal.[/quote]

I guess your "moniker" just stresses me out because it seems inconsistent with the things that you are saying, almost to the point of hypocrisy (which is the opposite of logical, by the way). Is it intentionally ironic? As you said, I'm new, so I have no way of knowing. I'm not "attacking" you here, I am genuinely confused by why you are saying those things while having that user name. My NT friend who has a lot of emotional intelligence suggests you may be trolling me, are you? I suppose you wouldn't admit it even if you were but I have a hard time picking up on that.

You're right, I am invested in this topic. I live less than two hours from the southern border so I and many people I know are very affected by this issue.



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26 Jan 2019, 10:45 am

Zinnia86 wrote:
I guess your "moniker" just stresses me out because it seems inconsistent with the things that you are saying, almost to the point of hypocrisy (which is the opposite of logical, by the way). Is it intentionally ironic? As you said, I'm new, so I have no way of knowing. I'm not "attacking" you here, I am genuinely confused by why you are saying those things while having that user name. My NT friend who has a lot of emotional intelligence suggests you may be trolling me, are you? I suppose you wouldn't admit it even if you were but I have a hard time picking up on that.

You're right, I am invested in this topic. I live less than two hours from the southern border so I and many people I know are very affected by this issue.

This is your third post about my user name, and now accusations of "hypocrisy" and "trolling".

You're the one who started conversing with me.

Your ridiculous statements that my user name "stresses you out" maybe means you shouldn't be on PPR.

I said nothing personal about you, yet, you keep making this personal.

Summary
1. Americans mostly don't want hard core criminals ("bad hombres").
2. We pay law enforcement to remove, jail and deport these people.
3. Trump has ramped up border patrol spending and hiring.
4. Arrests of criminal illegal aliens has increased (~320,000) during Trump's administration.

Immigration Arrests and Deportations Are Rising, I.C.E. Data Show
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/14/us/p ... -rise.html

5. Trump is proud of this.
6. Thus, this is one of Trump's accomplishments.

Please, stop making this personal.

If you have some argument to make, just make it, but it shouldn't be based on me.


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26 Jan 2019, 5:18 pm

How does being pro gun control equate to being racist.

Obama is not God. He’s just “some guy.” I don’t believe he’s racist.

Yes, black people can be racist.



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26 Jan 2019, 5:26 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
How does being pro gun control equate to being racist.

Obama is not God. He’s just “some guy.” I don’t believe he’s racist.

Yes, black people can be racist.

Republicans oppose gun control
Leftist here are saying all republicans are racist nazis
Democrats support banning all guns
Gun control like abortion is party issue. Republicans oppose abortion, democrats oppose gun rights.

Obama is super racist. He made every single issue about race. He’s divided this nation a lot which lead to trump being elected.
He saw himself as king as did he’s followers. Figured he can do whatever he wants with a wave of his hand(pen and paper) like Hillary he was very patronizing to people he didn’t like .



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26 Jan 2019, 5:41 pm

Not even Obama wanted to take guns from people. I don’t know if he hunts. He might. Many Democrats hunt alongside Republicans.

I, honestly, would say Obama probably would have beat Trump for a third term, if that were possible. Hillary was a poor candidate. She made major blunders, and is seen as being quite corrupt.



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27 Jan 2019, 12:31 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Not even Obama wanted to take guns from people. I don’t know if he hunts. He might. Many Democrats hunt alongside Republicans.

I, honestly, would say Obama probably would have beat Trump for a third term, if that were possible. Hillary was a poor candidate. She made major blunders, and is seen as being quite corrupt.

Sure that’s why he wanted to ban simi auto guns and pushed though a ban on people on social security and would take their guns. Also he’d take the simi auto guns from people.
He often said he wanted Australia style gun control ie bans.



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27 Jan 2019, 5:47 pm

sly279 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
How does being pro gun control equate to being racist.

Obama is not God. He’s just “some guy.” I don’t believe he’s racist.

Yes, black people can be racist.

Republicans oppose gun control
Leftist here are saying all republicans are racist nazis
Democrats support banning all guns
Gun control like abortion is party issue. Republicans oppose abortion, democrats oppose gun rights.

Obama is super racist. He made every single issue about race. He’s divided this nation a lot which lead to trump being elected.
He saw himself as king as did he’s followers. Figured he can do whatever he wants with a wave of his hand(pen and paper) like Hillary he was very patronizing to people he didn’t like .


This is entirely conjecture. Not only are you generalizing two violently opposing sides, you're highlighting the greatest causes of their mutual hatred. The means to shoot someone & the reasons for termimating a pregnancy are completely unrelated, the only common thread is that these things made you angry enough to start thinking irrationally.


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28 Jan 2019, 2:00 am

Zinnia86 wrote:
I guess your "moniker" just stresses me out because it seems inconsistent with the things that you are saying, almost to the point of hypocrisy (which is the opposite of logical, by the way). Is it intentionally ironic? As you said, I'm new, so I have no way of knowing. I'm not "attacking" you here, I am genuinely confused by why you are saying those things while having that user name. My NT friend who has a lot of emotional intelligence suggests you may be trolling me, are you? I suppose you wouldn't admit it even if you were but I have a hard time picking up on that.

You're right, I am invested in this topic. I live less than two hours from the southern border so I and many people I know are very affected by this issue.


You are derailing this thread by discussing a member rather than the topic. This is usually the inevitable result when one uses an ad hominem approach.



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28 Jan 2019, 1:27 pm

Dude you accuse everyone of that, it's getting tiresome.


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28 Jan 2019, 1:30 pm

sly279 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
How does being pro gun control equate to being racist.

Obama is not God. He’s just “some guy.” I don’t believe he’s racist.

Yes, black people can be racist.

Republicans oppose gun control
Leftist here are saying all republicans are racist nazis
Democrats support banning all guns
Gun control like abortion is party issue. Republicans oppose abortion, democrats oppose gun rights.

Obama is super racist. He made every single issue about race. He’s divided this nation a lot which lead to trump being elected.
He saw himself as king as did he’s followers. Figured he can do whatever he wants with a wave of his hand(pen and paper) like Hillary he was very patronizing to people he didn’t like .


I presume you are that sort of person that has a fetish for firearms?



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28 Jan 2019, 2:41 pm

Mainframe wrote:
sly279 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
How does being pro gun control equate to being racist.

Obama is not God. He’s just “some guy.” I don’t believe he’s racist.

Yes, black people can be racist.

Republicans oppose gun control
Leftist here are saying all republicans are racist nazis
Democrats support banning all guns
Gun control like abortion is party issue. Republicans oppose abortion, democrats oppose gun rights.

Obama is super racist. He made every single issue about race. He’s divided this nation a lot which lead to trump being elected.
He saw himself as king as did he’s followers. Figured he can do whatever he wants with a wave of his hand(pen and paper) like Hillary he was very patronizing to people he didn’t like .


I presume you are that sort of person that has a fetish for firearms?

I take it your a mean anti gun person.
Mean you wouldn’t say people have a fetish for gay rights or a fetish for free speech, fetish for due process, etc



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28 Jan 2019, 3:02 pm

I have a fetish for free speech and due process.

These turn me on very much......



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28 Jan 2019, 7:59 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I have a fetish for free speech and due process.

These turn me on very much......

We both know it’s an insult



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28 Jan 2019, 8:00 pm

What's an insult? I don't get you.



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29 Jan 2019, 5:30 am

cberg wrote:
Dude you accuse everyone of that, it's getting tiresome.


Everyone? I point it out when it occurs. And the number of times it occurs is what's tiresome.



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29 Jan 2019, 5:34 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
What's an insult? I don't get you.



The person who said "I presume you are that sort of person that has a fetish for firearms?" was being derogatory.